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KiKurASiruSaSH wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1817180
statistics of breah, look at top 10 most created areas #7...
"lab is so hated"
That one has been debunked already. Word manipulation designed to fool the less astute.
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Posted byDeletedon Jan 16, 2017, 8:21:37 PM
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KiKurASiruSaSH wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1817180
statistics of breah, look at top 10 most created areas #7...
"lab is so hated"
That one has been debunked already. Word manipulation designed to fool the less astute.
lol, do you really have nothing better to do than pushing this agenda?
also, where is it debunked, that one of the most played areas in the game, is the lab? there is stats to show it....
you can't just "hurdur, it's debunked" i have like 2 posts in this thread, i'm not going to siff through 114 pages
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The_Reporter wrote:
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KiKurASiruSaSH wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1817180
statistics of breah, look at top 10 most created areas #7...
"lab is so hated"
That one has been debunked already. Word manipulation designed to fool the less astute.
"Word manipulation" lol
Each character created that gets to end game does it a minimum of 4 times. Then you account for deaths/reties. Then you account for people farming enchants. Account for people speed running it. Account for people farming keys...
A lot of people enjoy the lab.
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Posted bySimplesim45#4104on Jan 16, 2017, 8:28:40 PM
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The_Reporter wrote:
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KiKurASiruSaSH wrote:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1817180
statistics of breah, look at top 10 most created areas #7...
"lab is so hated"
That one has been debunked already. Word manipulation designed to fool the less astute.
"Word manipulation" lol
Each character created that gets to end game does it a minimum of 4 times. Then you account for deaths/reties. Then you account for people farming enchants. Account for people speed running it. Account for people farming keys...
A lot of people enjoy the lab.
I'm sure that a lot of people enjoy the labyrinth. It's also true that a lot of people do not enjoy the labyrinth.
I think what The_Reporter is referring to is earlier in this thread (IIRC) it was pointed out that the trials have all been bunched together for all of the different difficulties whereas the other areas on the list are divided by difficulty, in an apparent "fudging" of the stats to make the Labyrinth even appear in the top ten.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Posted byTurtledove#4014on Jan 16, 2017, 9:38:43 PM
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KiKurASiruSaSH wrote:
i'm not going to siff through 114 pages
well, ive been late to this party as well, but actually i made the effort and "siffed" through many pages of this thread. what can i say?
we (lab-supporters, or people who are just reasonable enough to accept the lab as the part of the game it is. ascendancy (for power), trials, labyrinth make perfect sense story and gameplaywise, btw) should really, really stop arguing about it (at least here). its senseless, really. many have tried and failed. let these few crusaders (im not talking about all the bypassers who dont like lab as well, but three people in particular who should know of whom im talking) self-assert each other and dwell in their conspiracy-theories.
this thread isnt about feedback. it isnt about "feedback feedback". read the opener. it is about someone who dislikes lab (traps especially) and feels forced to do it to get ascendancy points. instead the someone wants them for free, and feels entitled enough to go onto a crusade to demand change ("the list grows longer, our cause grows stronger!", or what was it, how catchy... nearly like a "deus lo vult!").
i dont "hate the message this thread implies". the person mentioned above isnt alone, ill grant that. there are many people who dont like challenges and want to get handed everything on a silver plate these days. and yes, of course they think they are in the majority. maybe they are (not in this game though, for gods sake).
i have faith in GGG that they wont casualize their game (anymore?) and cave in to these demands.
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Posted byClownkrieger#0827on Jan 16, 2017, 10:04:54 PM
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If you see it as 'wanting things handed over on a silver plate', you've failed to read and comprehend anything.
Good job.
Now, off with you. Troll elsewhere.
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Posted byDeletedon Jan 16, 2017, 10:39:33 PM
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No one cares about how many people you have in your list that dislike lab. GGG already said they intentionally released lab expecting a minority to dislike it. Cherry picking supporters is not going to support your cause. You think anyone cares if less than 1000 vocal players dislike lab or not, alt or not. No. Especially not when player retention is higher....
I already made it known you are going to need at least 20k supporters. At the rate you been going since the release of lab this is never going to happen.
Just be happy you get to do lab 1 less time when 3.0 comes. Thats the only change you will see.
Sorry Jgizle, if you've said that before then you're still being irrational. I doubt that 20k players have ever even posted on the forums. With such thinking it would not make sense to even create a Feedback and Suggestions forum.
Thats the point. People only come to forums if they have a problem, or they want to find a build, or discuss new or upcomming content.
There are not 20k people who dislike lab. 1% may dislike lab but you will never get the results you seek because it requires a majority to dislike lab which is simply not the case. Realistically its less than 3%. The rest enjoy it enough to do it. And many enjoy it for the rewards. A minority enjoys the competitive aspect of it. But a majority has no problem with it.
This cherry picking of players is nothing but a waste of time. GGG has more concrete data. Since player retention is higher with lab in the game its not changing besides the 1 less completion in 3.0.
Ps. Dont mistake me for being angry or trying to be rude or anything. I am simply stating the reality of things. Theres no reason to let something so insignificant ruin your enjoyment of a great game. Its not even that difficult until you get to uber, and even then you can get carried for relatively meaningless amounts of currency.
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Posted byJgizle#5723on Jan 16, 2017, 11:54:04 PM
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Clownkrieger wrote:
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KiKurASiruSaSH wrote:
i'm not going to siff through 114 pages
well, ive been late to this party as well, but actually i made the effort and "siffed" through many pages of this thread. what can i say?
we (lab-supporters, or people who are just reasonable enough to accept the lab as the part of the game it is. ascendancy (for power), trials, labyrinth make perfect sense story and gameplaywise, btw) should really, really stop arguing about it (at least here). its senseless, really. many have tried and failed. let these few crusaders (im not talking about all the bypassers who dont like lab as well, but three people in particular who should know of whom im talking) self-assert each other and dwell in their conspiracy-theories.
this thread isnt about feedback. it isnt about "feedback feedback". read the opener. it is about someone who dislikes lab (traps especially) and feels forced to do it to get ascendancy points. instead the someone wants them for free, and feels entitled enough to go onto a crusade to demand change ("the list grows longer, our cause grows stronger!", or what was it, how catchy... nearly like a "deus lo vult!").
i dont "hate the message this thread implies". the person mentioned above isnt alone, ill grant that. there are many people who dont like challenges and want to get handed everything on a silver plate these days. and yes, of course they think they are in the majority. maybe they are (not in this game though, for gods sake).
i have faith in GGG that they wont casualize their game (anymore?) and cave in to these demands.
Your characterization of the disagreement as "hardcore vs. casual" is incorrect.
Wash your hands, Exile!
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Posted bygibbousmoon#4656on Jan 17, 2017, 12:24:39 AM
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What makes it even more puzzling is that it's coming from someone who doesn't even play Hardcore. A casual.
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Posted byDeletedon Jan 17, 2017, 12:34:24 AM
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Jgizle wrote:
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Turtledove wrote:
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Jgizle wrote:
No one cares about how many people you have in your list that dislike lab. GGG already said they intentionally released lab expecting a minority to dislike it. Cherry picking supporters is not going to support your cause. You think anyone cares if less than 1000 vocal players dislike lab or not, alt or not. No. Especially not when player retention is higher....
I already made it known you are going to need at least 20k supporters. At the rate you been going since the release of lab this is never going to happen.
Just be happy you get to do lab 1 less time when 3.0 comes. Thats the only change you will see.
Sorry Jgizle, if you've said that before then you're still being irrational. I doubt that 20k players have ever even posted on the forums. With such thinking it would not make sense to even create a Feedback and Suggestions forum.
Thats the point. People only come to forums if they have a problem, or they want to find a build, or discuss new or upcomming content.
There are not 20k people who dislike lab. 1% may dislike lab but you will never get the results you seek because it requires a majority to dislike lab which is simply not the case. Realistically its less than 3%. The rest enjoy it enough to do it. And many enjoy it for the rewards. A minority enjoys the competitive aspect of it. But a majority has no problem with it.
This cherry picking of players is nothing but a waste of time. GGG has more concrete data. Since player retention is higher with lab in the game its not changing besides the 1 less completion in 3.0.
Ps. Dont mistake me for being angry or trying to be rude or anything. I am simply stating the reality of things. Theres no reason to let something so insignificant ruin your enjoyment of a great game. Its not even that difficult until you get to uber, and even then you can get carried for relatively meaningless amounts of currency.
You are throwing around totally bogus percentages. Please stop making everything up out of thin air. I really thought you were more rational than that??
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Posted byTurtledove#4014on Jan 17, 2017, 1:20:53 AM
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