Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support DONE!!!!!
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Officially Retired!!!! Yippee!! New method to ascend announced by GGG and to come out in PoE2
Since about May 17, 2016 I've been keeping a list of the many threads that have been discussing problems with labyrinth (based on the OP) here in the Feedback and Suggestions forum. I've decided to keep the list on line in this OP. For a discussion of what changes might best resolve problems people have, see the OP (opening post) of the thread, SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]. It does a good job of covering the different proposed methods for "fixing/improving" the labyrinth. For band-aid fixes, the two most complained about aspects of Labyrinth at this point are a more predictable completion of the 6 end-game trials and some kind of partial recovery of a labyrinth run on a disconnect. For over a year, I ignored threads about just Izaro or enchants and not list those. My theory about those complaints is that they are not really about the new trap gameplay and other problematic mechanisms added in labyrinth, e.g., no portals. Also, complaints just about Izaro usually boil down to someone wanting the challenge to just be made easier. The focus I have is making it fun not easier. I also ignored the very few threads that had a positive OP regarding labyrinth. Starting in December 2017 I will now probably include most threads about Izaro. Izaro has been nerfed some and I think most of the threads about Izaro have something to do now with the loathsome area that he forces people to sometimes repeat making the distaste for Izaro even greater than otherwise. Some of the intended purposes served by this list are; - demonstrates that the Ascendancy Release had large quality problems in both design and execution. - providing anecdotal evidence as to how a significant percentage of the player base dislikes the labyrinth, - demonstrates that there's been many problems in the labyrinth, - help bring attention to the issue in the hope that GGG will fix the problem by making labyrinth optional or making ascendancy points available without requiring bad trap gameplay, - and it demonstrates how horribly divisive the labyrinth has become for the community. The list is in roughly reverse chronological order. Here's an excellent post by Zaludoz that explains why this thread needed to be made, the original purpose or motivation. The account name list has moved to a Google Doc because I hit the 50,000 character limit for a post on this forum. List of account names posting in support of change to Labyrinth. *____________________________________________________________ *____________________________________________________________ LAB 4.0 - I hear its gone. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2677703 Whose play experience is improved by having to do all six Uber Lab Trials? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2677112 Uber lab trial generation. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2657171 Eternal Lab Trials Spawn rates! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2651428 Just did uber lab after a year... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2652045 *___________________430 threads below here___________________ Uber Lab Trial RNG https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2649707 Pétition contre le labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2628091 4 trials this time https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2626369 For the love of god, please remove Labyrinth from game. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2533464 Make labyrinth optional or give portals to do it https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2521305 Suggestion to lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2508813 Uber Lab Trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2503711 Labyrinth Trials - RNG https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2499368 Trial / Labyrinth should have been optional https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2493672 Lab is terrible https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2483500 *___________________420 threads below here___________________ LABYRINTH VS VOLTAGE DROPS suggestion!https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2477530 Synthesis is good, but not stability; lab disconnects aren't a skill test, they're a boredom test. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2454560 Labyrinth and internet glitch https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2331968 Once again left with 5 uber lab trials. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2327812 Labyrinth Disconnects https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2321019 Finding Trials is really frustrating https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2310213 Two labyrinth trials are among most deadly areas in the game https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2308464 Can Labyrinth be reworked so it's not game endingly bad? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2304786 Please change the uber lab ascendants trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2296090 Since GGG forced lab down our throats, how about some protection from lab carries that quit or die? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2291956 *___________________410 threads below here___________________ Please do something about uber lab trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2288486 Ascendancy trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2287720 Disconnect in Labs shouldn't start you over https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2253288 REWORK the Lord's Labyrinth in 4.0, or else.. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2250178 SSF Uber Lab Trials - Pointless RNG? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2242662 F THE LABIRINTHS https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2238083 Hate this fuckin Uberlab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2225027 RE-ENTERING LAB https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2215065 get rid of trials already https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2213160 Revamps for Lab to make it more accessible https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2201412 *___________________400 threads below here___________________ Friendly reminder: Uber Lab is still boring and lack of re-entry is bullshit https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2199602 Trials for labyrinth are boring and pointless for experienced players, make them optional https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2193797 Disconnect between Uber Lab/trials RNG compared to player expectations https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2192653 Ascendancy Trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2190441 Uber lab traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2186697 Take out the escort mission gauntlet in Eternal Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2184890 Uber Trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2169129 Labyrinth internet disconnect forgiveness https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2173641 Uber Lab Client Crashes - Nobody Expects Perfection https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2169210 Until er Lab Trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2149217/ *___________________390 threads below here___________________ The "Benjamin Button" method of Ascending: Fight Izaro back when he was alive https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2144196 New player feedback on Labyrinth & Game in general https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2142717 Labyrinth not having checkpoints still sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2138340 [Rant] Lab, fuck this shit https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2134675 Uber Trial Rework Suggestion https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2132798 Make the goddamn trials more common ! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2132911 Running Uber Lab - Impression and Feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2132750 Lab Lighting is Lacking :( https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2127553 don't kick us out of lab because of DC https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2125057 Server issues and uber lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2121110 *___________________380 threads below here___________________ Remove the lab, it is what made me quit Abyss and now I am torturing myself https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2117894 Still hate labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2111028 If GGG believes in POE as an ARPG, then why the out-of-genre mini-games? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2110477 Disconnecting in the labyrinth shouldn't make me lose my offering/progress. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2103568 Where is the Labyrinth poll? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2099416 To GGG: If nets for dead critters can get a poll, let's have a poll for Labyrinth as well https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2098810 Disconnects in Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2094038 Lab is still shit https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2091304 Whats the point of changing ascenday but still forcing lab? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2090710 Perandus as master / Lab reward rework https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2086936 *___________________370 threads below here___________________ 10-minute grace period to return in The Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2084655 Fuck the lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2084153 Regarding Lab re-entry and Chris' recent statements about DC https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2073598 Endgame trials/lab and HC https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1674784 [Labyrinth] - Ability to disarm traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2067663 Just wanna send out a nice big F U to... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2064208 F the labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2063266 Uber lab disconnections as it happens every league https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2063052 Trial of Piercing Truth is fucking bullshit. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1738772 Uber lab trap dmg out of control. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2045230 *___________________360 threads below here___________________ Merciless Lab literally impossible. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2039526 Why not shorten the map trials? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2035423 Idea: Labyrinth Trap Gauntlets - As an XP source https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2034844 Goodbye POE - nonsense game by design? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2031363 Now that Offerings aren't put into the Map Device to run Uber Lab... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2031195 For those that enjoy labs. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2030492 Labyrinth Suggestions https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2028244 Labs should not be mandatory. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2027829 New player feedback, reasons I stopped playing https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2026556 Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2015790 *___________________350 threads below here___________________ Lab Disconnects Solution https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2014030 Lab trials buffed? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2012810 Why don't they https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2006651 Labyrinth only good for ragequits - needs waypoints https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2005588 Remove lab trial plaque popup https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2000223 (Author not added, so another missing "+") Can we get biased RNG on the Uber Lab trials, please? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1987945 (Author not added, so another missing "+") Trials of Ascendancy, most hardcore unfriendly thing ever invented https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1987233 Ok then, guess I'll just never be able to do uber lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1979716 About The Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1975926 Labyrinth access needs to be like every other Map in the game https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1974314 *___________________340 threads below here___________________ Uberlab is still disgusting me. 2 days keydrops bugged https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1971558 LAB is lagging to hell and beyond. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1927088 Another way to pass the labyrinth by. Please. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1924856 [Removed by Support] https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1926663 Let players be able to get back to labyrinth when network interrupted unexpectedly https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1925827 Finished lab, forgot to ascend - Feelsbadman https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1923539 GGG can you make it possible to pay to skip Lab? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1921217 Make the labyrinth accessible by player level and remove trials of ascendancy https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1918571 Uber lab trials bullshit has to leave..... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1918257 Straw poll: do you like the lab? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1912655 *___________________330 threads below here___________________ Ideas to Fix the lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1912324 Please Delete the Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1911054 Simple Solution to the "Too Much Lab" Issue? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1905058 Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1903876 Labyrinth suggestion https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1901587 1 labyrinth. 6 trials. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1900313 Suggestion for Labyrinth Given Upcoming Changes https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1899651 A New Proposal for Addressing Labyrinth Hatred https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1897324 Tackling the limitations of PoE: Part One - The "Labyrinth" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1896099 I really hate lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1895705 *___________________320 threads below here___________________ Laybrinth alternatives https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1895406 Please remove Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1895307 Labyrinth makes me want to hurt someone https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1894883 Labyrinth test - one year later https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1891923 Make lab non-mandatory! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1890378 Sell ascendancies https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1857326 Can we agree the lab with golden doors is fucking AIDS? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1889458 Almost made me quit, so fucking mad... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1889409 Ascendant Orb https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1884733 Stupid fing lazy pice of shit design (of course lab) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1884572 *___________________310 threads below here___________________ Game runs like crap https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1881104 An alternative for ascendency points. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1878890 Is the root problem that the Labyrinth is "Optional"? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1874202 How to add waypoints to the Labyrinth without disincentivizing running the complete labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1873393 Making Endgame Lab, A Real Endgame Feature https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1872994 Getting people to want to experience the labyrinth instead of just clearing it https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1872849 Since most hate the Lab how about this for content difficulty GGG ? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1873285 Labyrinth review for 3.0 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1871983 UBER LAB IS FUCKED https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1869904 Can the lab please be changed. Ideas! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1868646 *___________________300 threads below here___________________ I really hate lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1868885 Either fix your game or change the lab mechanics https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1865826 Labyrinth Traps Mitigation https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605226 Add ability to skip lab and buy points https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1862401 Please remove Uber lab trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1855699 Ascendency points and Oriath (aka remove Labyrinth mandatoriness) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1835684 Labyrinth's traps need some nerf https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1830550 Idea for fixing lab! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1827470 Lab traps make no sense https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1817372 Add portals to the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1814976 *___________________290 threads below here___________________ Shortening lab but maintaining the difficulty https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1812646 The worst piece of content I've ever seen in any game https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1812995 I've come to realize I really dont like lab, trials and enchant system even one bit https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1806391 How fo fix Uber lab in its entirety https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1798617 Make a Checkpoint When Disconnected During Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1798240 Give us several portals for Uber lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1796158 Endgame trials rant. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1794270 What PoE has become to me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1793045 Labyrinth crash/lag, time and time again. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1792351 Let us buy an ascendency class respect for a pure exalt https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1791489 *___________________280 threads below here___________________ If I can fixed Path of Exiles https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1788875 LAB is not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1787384 I'm back to say I'm leaving again... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1785879 Labyrinth vendor... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1785165 Endless Sting (Labyrinth Bleeding Trap) Deals Too Much Damage https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1766675 Labyrinth is for NEET. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1764826 Remove the Lab!!!!!! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1761272 Petition to remove the traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601207 Cant see in uber lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1757063 Lab Pollpendium - With Fraud Detection https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1754350 *___________________270 threads below here___________________ News Part II https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1750664 Dear GGG, Your game is fucked... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1752674 Appeal to developers about the the labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1753002 Labyrinth in POE == slice of pie with a piece of crap on it https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1753268 Lab is so bad, please kill me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1752386 Ascendancy Points Unlocked https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1748472 Trials of Ascendancy should not be random. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1747571 Hate Uber Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1743705 Newbie lab feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1745060 Uninstalled. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1741770 *___________________260 threads below here___________________ Extreme desync in lab/trails https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1743884 The Loot From Uber Lab Feels Bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1742477 Those disconnects inside the lab still there, so, will they stay forever? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1741014 Uber Lab - Visibility Problems (YALT) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1741287 Different kind of labyrinth suggestion https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1741039 Wasn't Lab bad enough? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1740908 cannot unlock uber lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1739591 Fixing Labyrinth - Solution Only Replies https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1737916 Extreme Frame Drop in Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1737388 Lab annoys me even when im not doing it https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1736129 *___________________250 threads below here___________________ Can only laugh at the lab at this point https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1734521 Please add DC protection on Lab =( Please. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1733741 Just another thread about Labyrinths and how they are GARBAGE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1729128 WTF is this labyrinth BS???? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1727950 Lab = Worst Crap ever https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1727600 Labs need save points....seriously.... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1726105 Lab is so bad #3 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1725661 Labyrinth is a terrible necessity https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1726126 The Labyrinth layout should change every time you enter. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1725356 Lab - A way everyone wins https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1715162 *______________________240 threads below here________________ freaking lab leaking into the game under the guise of boss rework! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714841 And there it is...remaking of content with Lab elements. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714621 Lab is Removed by Support - some answers and feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714258 New char, new lab thread https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1714032 Ueber lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1713658 A new Labyrinth (My Vision, Long post) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1713316 [Labyrinth] so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1713286 The Labyrinth needs a total re-work. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1713249 Place all traps in Twilight Strand https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1684799 Labyrinth trials account wide unlock after first completion per league. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1713126 Lab sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1712722 Labyrinth. Complains. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1712652 I love laby https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1712298 Fix your fucking labyrinth, or give another way to obtain it's fruits. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1712548 Labyrinth for returning player https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1712151 Minority, and a Plea. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1709934 Let us re-enter Izaro's treasure room. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1710847 Uninstalled the game due to no changes to labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1711065 *__________________222 threads below here____________________ Just... lol https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1709081 Labyrinth soundtrack https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1708587 Change % damage from traps to flat damage in lab already. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1708352 Small Labyrinth modification suggestions https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1701651 GGG, Lab thoughts + suggestions. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1707493 Thanks to LAB there are more active Standard players than both hardcore leagues combined. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1707706 uber trials: the bleed sentry https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1706828 I hate the lab...but... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1706797 Future of Ascendency Points wrt Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1706471 A suggestion to make lab haters and lovers happy at the same time https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1706306 Another Idea to Cure the Lab negatives https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1705299 Alternate option to make lab interesting... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1704788 LAB - Give us hope or give us closure GGG https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1704863 Labyrinth Traps: please limit the size of Spike Trap fields https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1704630 [Suggestion] Limited portaling-out from the Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1704047 Labyrinth for rework! Make POE great again! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1703863 *__________________206 threads below here____________________ *There's 173 total accounts responsible for 206 threads. Of *the 26 accounts with multiple threads, those 26 thread authors *account for 58 of those threads. *____________________________________________________________ "I am sorry, but your ascendancy plaque is in another castle!" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663982 Lab waypoints. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1703633 Lab sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702859 Trial of Burning Rage is easily my least favorite endgame Trial. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702478 The lab makes me wish Half life 3 was out... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702655 Many threads that have discussed problems with labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702621 Please fix pathing in the lab and trials https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702477 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702171 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1702089 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1701990 Lab is so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1701380 5 Alternate Ascendancy Methods https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1700863 I know some great optometrists https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/post-reply/1700613 LAB And Predictive Mode https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1699674 A complete lab rework ..... funmode https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697465 An idea to make lab traps less frustrating without making them less difficult https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697758 Plz fix https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697806 GGG pls tell us the release date of the next major patch https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697672 A few suggestions to the labyrinth to make less people hate it. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697354 It's a labyrinth, not a dungeon... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696202 Lab traps need nerfed https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1695176 uber lab ruined this game for me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1692762 Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1690630 Labyrinth would be fine if... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1688682 Lab should be really called "Prison" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1689116 My 2c on Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1687889 Why would GGG introduce content that people HATE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1688902 Put Ascendency points as a reward for defeating Malachai. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686222 The Labyrinth is great content https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1686329 Why the uber lab is a fuck-up https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1683137 The Ascendency Labyrinth - My Conclusions so far and how to solve the Problem! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1681139 Labyrinth is to hard for noobs like me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666613 Open Letter to Chris Wilson (on making the labyrinth more inclusive) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1664975 I hate the lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665824 The Labyrinth has a poor risk-to-reward structure. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1657066 I, Slayertip, Have officially given up hope for GGG. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655871 Labyrinth - CI, Low-Life, and Energy Shield in general. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600645 Stupid Lab Is The Worst Thing Ever! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663717 [Suggestion] Completing Trials in any Difficulty unlocks the Lab in all Difficulties (illustrated) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1653612 Labyrinth/Ascendancy improvements https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662854 Well, it's the third time i've run lab since the last time it crashed on me. Of COURSE it crashed! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662848 Skipping labyrinth - a solution? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1662065 The message when you try to leave the labyrinth needs to be reworked. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1659783 checkpoint reset in the labyrinth instead of total reset on death https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1659461 Suggestions to GGG for Ascendency points https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1658077 terrible labyrinths are so bad https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1656452 Has any more consideration been given to Lab? (it's terrible) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1656216 my 2 cents for the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1655181 About Labyrinth and traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654017 Put a prompt before leaving the lab in chest room https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1652187 no more traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651694 please design better traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651809 ZiggyD's Labyrinth Suggestion https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650718 The (Non)issue with the labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1651197 Ascendancy points should be Dominus(1) and Malachai (1) kill rewards https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650932 How to improve the labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607675 LAB - Tired to been disconnected https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1649815 The labyrinth is both boring and frustrating https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600374 Labyrinth,the worst content ever made in POE? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602474 SET FREE ASCENDANCY POINTS (remove AC from lab) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 [Poll] It's been a month now, how much do you like the labyrinth/acendancy class/enchantments? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639251 Labyrinth sucks https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599400 Labrynth = not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599118 Labyrinth an all difficulties? absolute horror, who has time for this? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654766 Lab is boring https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1654094 Labyrinth makes me want to stop playing. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1652039 The Labyrinth Reduced *My* Retention https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1648622 Labyrinth has killed any motivation to make new characters for me. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1650687 Ascendancy points can be rewarded out of Labyrinth. Lab is forced just to have a build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1647982 Quitting PoE after years due to Labyrinth System https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607115 Server shut down during Labyrinth's final boss https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1649386 idea for making the labyrinth more optional https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1646427 How to fail Labyrinth with 91lvl character on Normal https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600512 DCs Especially in Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1642527 Lab Sigh.... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1641568 Doing the labyrinth with a CI character: Please GGG, fix it ? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1634596 Labyrinth way too long https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1638651 My wallet will talk https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1642689 Im done https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1640022 Let's Talk Compromise https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1639840 Quick fix for the labyrinth: Orb of Enchantment https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1626083 Labyrinth killed the game for me https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1637861 Ready to say goodbye to an old friend. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1635252 Just When The Game Had Roped Me Back In, I Think I’m Done Again https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1631143 Labyrinth is trash https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625607 The Labyrinth as a returning player. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1626681 I never want to play the labyrinth ever again. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1619098 After thousen of hours and dollars, i now feel like quiting https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623311 Does anyone actually enjoy Labyrinth? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602524 Petition to get GGG to add Nascar-Style Racing to PoE https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1612436 The Labyrinth can imprison you? Are you serious??? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609752 Labyrinth = Worst addon ever https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609842 My solution for Labyrinth - Abandon runs with difficult traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1627246 The Labyrinth is not fun https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623748 To much Diesync in Labyrinth for Predictive End Fight https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1615082 [POLLS] Traps: What works, what doesn't, how can GGG fix what's broken? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1625332 Some improvements for lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1623275 The lab was the final nail https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621003 Pure and hybrid ES is basicly screwed in lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618697 Labyrinth and Visibility https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1622033 The Lab's pacing https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621396 Improving Traps in the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1621394 Suggestion (updated): One of the biggest gripes with the Labyrinth can be solved by... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618436 LAB FKN FAIL https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618978 Sorry, not good enough. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605295 My thoughts on the lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1619593 Quitting POE now after the labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599749 Alternate way to Ascend https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602696 The labyrinth's interaction with ES-based builds. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618873 Labryinth Key (Currency) - Unlocks Boss Fight only version https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618533 Labyrinth is Horrible https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604737 The Impossible Lab. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1618302 Challenges... in Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616168 Farewell, my friends! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609642 Please remove 'Restart on death' from Labyrinth. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617190 Cleared labyrinth cruel, got 0 ascendancy points. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616950 My 2 cents https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617410 Traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1617417 Died in labyrinth, couldnt flame dash, fake line of sight https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616996 Make Lab Optional - some Ideas https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616910 Labyrinth - Fix trap damage to set amounts in normal, rather than % of life / ES https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1616743 No state save on disconnect in Labyrinth?? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1615253 I've made up my mind about the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614981 Why does Lab actually reset zones? That is terrible design. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614152 Labyrinth sections reset?! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1614138 An idea about Ascendancy and the dreaded Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1613410 Here is why the Labyrinth favours softcore and is a very bad design. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610755 Died last night... uber lab trial this time... quitting poe again https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696107 As someone who actually doesn't hate the lab, I must say https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1696787 Labyrinth "balance" https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1611700 Poe Ascendancy went downhill , patch & GAME is horrible. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610258 My Problems with the Labyrith https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1610210 Labirynth is forcing hardcore on standard players. Why would you do that?? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608967 Don't like how the lab is implemented https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608889 GGG Read this: Labyrinth Advice from a Loyal Player https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608502 Labyrinth, forcing HC feelings? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1608040 I'll lend my voice... https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604534 Do you think playing labyrinths is any fun? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602206 Trial´s & Lab´s trap damage https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607185 Labyrinth forcing hardcore on standard players https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1607088 Labyrinth should not be mandatory for ac points https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1606225 The Ascendency Feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604398 Shit ass update https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1605268 The Labyrinth is everying I dislike about games in one package. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599347 Labyrinth visibility and switches https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603597 Remove Acendancy Points from Lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603373 Alternate Ascendancy https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603680 Ascendancy is not fun. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602221 Another Labyrinth camplaint post https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604022 Labyrinth Thoughts & Suggestions https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604248 Can we at LEAST get a way point after we go thru Izaro Iterations? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604456 Perandus League and lab feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604327 Add checkpoints to the lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604336 Traps scaling based on EHP is broken https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602466 My Labyrinth Impressions https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604259 I give up on the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603802 Fix the disconnections in the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1604118 Labyrinth ascendancy thoughts. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603886 Labyrinth is fun but.. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603828 Seperate Ascendancy classes reword from Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603147 Brilliant Alternative to Labyrinth (BIG MONEY MAKING IDEA) https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1603023 Add "Story mode" for labyrinth for people who just want their Ascension https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602757 Humiliation. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602751 Make Ascendancy a reward for finishing a difficulty https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602642 IMHO https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602334 Solution for Lab? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602222 Being unable to trade while running the labyrinth sucks. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602230 Labyrinth & Desync https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601505 End of Labyrinth needs to be more clear https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602252 Disconnecting in lab https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602179 Fire floors causing MASSIVE fps drops https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1602026 Labyrinth(tested with a 40 lvl HC character) feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601802 Lab- https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601824 A few points about the Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601735 Frustrating and sensless labyrinth ! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601885 High Latency Player Can't Navigate Traps https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601601 Who balanced the Labyrinth? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599302 labyrinth should be rebalanced! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601591 How to have fun with labyrinth? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601520 Feedback on Labyrinth https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601699 Labyrinth is a test of my internet connection??? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601609 There is no gold key! https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601579 A few waypoints in the Labyrinth? https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601381 The Labyrinth - Poor game design https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601544 Lab is the antithesis of this game https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601463 Make completion of the 6 trials account wide https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600629 Labyrinth feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1601064 Labyrinth is a huge let down https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600976 Initial impressions: Labyrinth Feedback https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600911 The Trials. feedback. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600596 Labyrinth disconnects, insanely slow loading https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600038 WORST release in POE History. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599150 Labyrinth is Awful https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599358 Labryinth = more reason to have camera control https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1600036 Just add waypoints to the labyrinth. Mkay https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599981 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599827 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599786 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599693 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599504 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599485 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599564 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599586 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599418 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599405 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1598563 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1599093 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1598455 https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1598916 Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired! 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...And Sexcalibur has created how many of them?
:D Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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if there is difficult content, those who fail it, naturally complain.
it's on ggg to improve things but also for players to accept the changes the labyrinth brought. --- i complained alot about endgame trials in maps but ended up taking more life flasks with me and as a last resort spec out of vaal pact temporarily. have mastered 4/6 trials at level 90 and think i just tried them too early in game with a level 80 char. age and treachery will triumph over youth and skill!
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" An interesting addition would be to add the author as a third column of information. There probably are some authors with multiple threads. I don't think that there are too many of those though? I only have this one thread myself. Note that when I built the list I searched for duplicates before adding a new thread to the list but I might have missed a few. So let me know if anyone sees any duplicates in the list. Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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"  Most of the threads contain people shitting at Lab, demanding it removed, or shitting at each other. A lot of shit, in general. I don't really see a point in listing all of them - 99% of them contain no useful information. TBH, most posts can be summed up as XxxTimmyxxX hates Lab a lot, and he thinks it sucks, and can't play now, and lab must be removed. And yes, it isn't hard to notice that some individuals have scored more than one (actually 10) created thread... Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
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Lab haters are the vocal minority. Pls, do not give them to much attention. They are not able to do the most simple tasks to get the powerfull ac points.
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You're the minority sorry.
Dys an sohm Rohs an kyn Sahl djahs afah Mah morn narr Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Jul 18, 2016, 9:00:19 AM
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" As I've pointed out elsewhere, this is a common fallacy, arrived at by those who really have no idea of why the labyrinth is disliked by many PoE players. For the most part, all we want is an alternative way to achieve Ascendancy points. For those who enjoy their time navigating traps, all I can say is have fun. Personally, if I wanted to play this type of game, I'd dust off my console and play Prince Of Persia. Oh, by the way, there's not a great deal of skill involved in running the labyrinth, even Uber. More or less any fool can create a Juggernaut with lots of life/regen and run straight through most traps. |
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Some builds are very good at the lab, some can barely make it through, and finally some builds cannot do Izaro ... that just about sums it up. Having to pay up to make someone else get you the points that you want in case of the last. Now for builds that can do Argus, that is a whole other case....
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If it makes you feel better I really doubt people who want better in game trade are a 'minority' and yet they still haven't improved that.
Luckily though being in a minority doesn't equal being wrong, that is to say; if the rewards of the lab were the exact same - ascendancy class/points, enchants, uber lab loot rewards - but were obtained in a more well thought out way the experience of getting them would be better. And you don't have to hate the lab to know they could have done something different and more fun. I put up with it and complete it on every character I make and every time it feels like a chore. It's intuitively easy to understand while playing it there had to have been better options to challenge and reward the player. |
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