[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

Good job on the guides mate, very well put together. I have played the witch variant at least 10 times by now(ripping in hc is like my favourite thing to do lol) over the last few leagues(the one in Breach being the highest level ever) and I'm going to make one this league too. The tree has always been the same and I want to try something different. Have a few questions though as I've never reached T16s before, probably wont this time either but I'll definitely try ha.

So, and I know you have an answer in FAQ on this already but still, is US really that necessary? I'm considering valyrium+lab stun enchant, which would free up the points for extra jewels that would cover the loss of diamond skin cluster as well as add more damage and would allow me to pick up the witch es nodes. No US would mean I can use a stibnite too which is one of the best defensive flasks imo. Have you tried valyrium and/or the lab enchant and if so can you really feel the immunity loss that much at higher levels? I also plan to use the Gull(cause its just so insane) so the cold res from valyrium would be covered.

Have you tried the non AoF/CwC version? With the need to run CtF gem and AoF now, I'm considering the Inquisitor(or Beserker?) for this. The high mana cost would be covered by the the 4% mana regen(or maybe Beserker leech?). Dropping scorching ray-cwc and cold to fire for echo+ele focus/conc/controlled destruction (over the standard ray-cwc-ctf-conc/ele focus-leech-pen) Do you think there is any merit for a pure ice version? Honestly, I think the synergy with Ray-CwC and fire Icestrom is too big to lose but just in case you have tried it, what are your thoughts on this?

Considering I'm only playing HC, which would you say is the safest version? I'm leaning towards Witch cause she's reflect immune but still.

If you can answer any of these questions it would be much appreciated, cheers.
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Messiah_sin_x wrote:
Which end game grinds are the easiest to accomplish, from what I've seen in his videos, Uber Izaro is quite easy, some of the shaper's guardians can be easily tanked but Idk about the other ones, I don't like doing Atziri's, seems like it requires much preparations taking you out of your comfort zone and you also have to move a lot.

Xoph and Tul breaches are preaty fast and esey.
Is adding Increased Duration to Cast when Damage Taken + Immortal Call worth it?
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Ardo86 wrote:
Is adding Increased Duration to Cast when Damage Taken + Immortal Call worth it?


For a Witch, I'd say no - as you're using a 4L to do IC and both golems. Manually casting one and keeping em straight so both are out and blah blah blah... it's just a pain in the butt.

Leveled IC + endurance charges is plenty.
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cmbyrd00 wrote:
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Ardo86 wrote:
Is adding Increased Duration to Cast when Damage Taken + Immortal Call worth it?


For a Witch, I'd say no - as you're using a 4L to do IC and both golems. Manually casting one and keeping em straight so both are out and blah blah blah... it's just a pain in the butt.

Leveled IC + endurance charges is plenty.


Thanks for your response! What about boss fights (with no endurance charges)? Is the Immortal Call extra duration from Increased Duration worth it (0.4s -> 0.7s)?
The gem levels i see on you prophecy gear have to be the same otherwise they wont work effectively right? I respeced from dual pizzasticks and tried it for a short time yesterday, couldn't get the leech to work. Have to put more hours into transition and learning the build. Do you have any reccomendations about my gear atm ? (broke with currency tho)

Thanks for the awsome build !
can anyone answer the jewel question ive been holding off buying anything cause I'm not sure how a 16% spell damage and 12% spell damage with staff is better then a 22+% cold and fire damage turmoil am I missing something?
Last edited by gradinarcho#6842 on Mar 20, 2017, 11:10:59 AM
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gradinarcho wrote:
can anyone answer the jewel question ive been holding off buying anything cause I'm not sure how a 16% spell damage and 12% spell damage with staff is better then a 22+% cold and fire damage turmoil am I missing something?


it is not. to assess jewels, do the following:

add up all values of

cold damage
fire damage
spell damage
spell damage while holding a staff
damage
area damage
intelligence

the sum of these values is the "score" of a jewel. whatever jewel has the higher score is better. if jewels have the same score, prefer the one with higher int.

izaros turmoil has a score between 36 and 50. good rare jewels have a score of 42-44 and above. finding a rare jewel that really beats a well-rolled izaros is very hard.
Last edited by Black_Gun#7476 on Mar 20, 2017, 3:48:41 PM
Okay so i got most of the gear that is reccomended in the build. I am trying to follow step by step, but still struggling with the leech. I guess it's because of the low dmg? Is this because of the gems not being all lvl 20 ? Right now i can clear T10 maps if i play safe, but i don't see any leech at all.. :/
What can i do to make this build work? I've put many hours and alot (i mean aloooooot) of currency in it...

My gear: (dont mind the life flask, haven't gotten any other to remove bleed since i just respecced)



EDIT: I LITERALLY AM AN IDIOT. i DIDN'T HAVE GHOST REAVER POINT TAKEN. Going to see if that makes things better.
Last edited by MrWestons#6678 on Mar 20, 2017, 3:22:53 PM
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MrWestons wrote:
Okay so i got most of the gear that is reccomended in the build. I am trying to follow step by step, but still struggling with the leech. I guess it's because of the low dmg? Is this because of the gems not being all lvl 20 ? Right now i can clear T10 maps if i play safe, but i don't see any leech at all.. :/
What can i do to make this build work? I've put many hours and alot (i mean aloooooot) of currency in it...

My gear: (dont mind the life flask, haven't gotten any other to remove bleed since i just respecced)



EDIT: I LITERALLY AM AN IDIOT. i DIDN'T HAVE GHOST REAVER POINT TAKEN. Going to see if that makes things better.

:DDD You made my day, bro!!! It wont just make things better, it will make this build work as it's supposed to, of course the leech is gonna be huge :)

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