[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Garash wrote:
So Astramentis is mainly for the intelligence, I gathered? How much strength is needed from the amulet slot using the "regular gear" in the other slots (Pyre, Doedres, WI, Black sun crest).

Sometimes I get temppted to buy myself a nice little 100ish intelligence amulet with some res mods so I can replace my awful boots and stuff, but Im guessing the lack of strength will be an issue for Warlord's mark. Is there a point where WL is still efficient, although have a much lower level (I can get it to 20 % quality along with Blasphemy as well).


With max level gems you'll need 155 str and 111 dex. There are 4 +10 str nodes you take on the tree, and you start out with 24 str and dex, so you'll need 91 str and 87 dex from your amulet (which is why an Astramentis is recommended.)

You'll lose defensively using a low level Warlord's Mark. Your call.

Last edited by Graiaule#7461 on Jan 28, 2017, 6:39:03 PM
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Graiaule wrote:

With max level gems you'll need 155 str and 111 dex. There are 4 +10 str nodes you take on the tree, and you start out with 24 str and dex, so you'll need 91 str and 87 dex from your amulet (which is why an Astramentis is recommended.)


2 minor details: There is another +10 str on the notable "Retribution" and starting values are 14 each, not 24, so the char needs 91 str and 97 dex. Point remains: Astramentis covers those needs just perfectly as a side effect.
Last edited by aRTy42#1524 on Jan 28, 2017, 8:34:11 PM
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What's the benefits of using Pyre over Cold to Fire support + AoF?
You Safe 2 skillpoints, you can use a better multiplier support gem and you get some resists.

I prefer the cold to fire / Avatar of fire version but i play standart league with 2 legacy perandus rings.
Would you recommened using
with the LL version with some passive points dig in +Int more in the passive in a replacement of Astramentis ?

goo.gl/1V0QTY This is the tree with my Item using 1 Emperor Mastery and Black sun crest.
Last edited by Kollita#3050 on Jan 28, 2017, 11:24:54 PM
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Graiaule wrote:
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Garash wrote:

You'll lose defensively using a low level Warlord's Mark. Your call.



well... what do we really lose by taking a slightly lower level warlords mark? the difference between a lvl 5 warlords mark (supportable with a lvl 1 cwdt) and a lvl 20 warlords mark is 7% reduced stun recovery for the monsters and 7% increased chance to get an endurance charge per kill.

others might disagree, but I personally dont think those differences are a big deal.
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Black_Gun wrote:
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Graiaule wrote:

You'll lose defensively using a low level Warlord's Mark. Your call.



well... what do we really lose by taking a slightly lower level warlords mark? the difference between a lvl 5 warlords mark (supportable with a lvl 1 cwdt) and a lvl 20 warlords mark is 7% reduced stun recovery for the monsters and 7% increased chance to get an endurance charge per kill.

others might disagree, but I personally dont think those differences are a big deal.


Check http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Warlord%27s_Mark for the other things you lose, particularly the area of effect of the curse.
Hey,

first of all ... sorry for my bad english.

Finally after a playtime of 19 days and 64 rips i finished my standard witch with reaching lvl 100. I just want to say Thank you Kelvynn for this awesome build !!

I mostly follwed your guide and made some little changes for my personal preference and gear.



My final gear so far


Gear (was pretty lucky with crafting/vaaling)



Even with 2.5 k int and legacy perandus rings the damage with pyre and controlled destruction instead of cold to fire support is higher. But perandus rings provide a lot of ES and manaregen which helps a lot with precasting icestorm.

The 6-link staff was an accidend - used 2 fusings on the wrong item and got a 6-link.

Flask



I used Atziri's promise for a while, until i realised, that it won´t work with avatar of fire "you deal no non-fire damage"


Jewels



After the items from breach league switch to standard, i replace my rare jewels with



I wanted to test
when the league is over, but i think like atziri's promise it will not give any damage with avatar of fire




My stats

offensive (in hideout with active pendulum and golems)



defensive (in hideout with active auras



in combat





If the build is still viable with the next addon, i think i will try the marauder version.
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Naramie_VI wrote:
Hey,

first of all ... sorry for my bad english.

Finally after a playtime of 19 days and 64 rips i finished my standard witch with reaching lvl 100. I just want to say Thank you Kelvynn for this awesome build !!

I mostly follwed your guide and made some little changes for my personal preference and gear.



My final gear so far


Gear (was pretty lucky with crafting/vaaling)



Even with 2.5 k int and legacy perandus rings the damage with pyre and controlled destruction instead of cold to fire support is higher. But perandus rings provide a lot of ES and manaregen which helps a lot with precasting icestorm.

The 6-link staff was an accidend - used 2 fusings on the wrong item and got a 6-link.

Flask



I used Atziri's promise for a while, until i realised, that it won´t work with avatar of fire "you deal no non-fire damage"


Jewels



After the items from breach league switch to standard, i replace my rare jewels with



I wanted to test
when the league is over, but i think like atziri's promise it will not give any damage with avatar of fire




My stats

offensive (in hideout with active pendulum and golems)



defensive (in hideout with active auras



in combat





If the build is still viable with the next addon, i think i will try the marauder version.


that is some seriously sick gear man, gz!!

and I thought I could show off with my 2001 int on my bsc icestormer...

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