[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

How often do you guys use Leap slam + Fortify while using CwC + SR? Is it still the best combo to use as the 3L currently listed in boots?

How u get so much dmg? I'm onn 5200+ tooltip with golems up, 6k (at the end of 4s), 1466 int.
I can get maybe ~75 int after changing my belt. How much int do you have?

for those who wonder about other's tooltip damage and how to get there:

mine:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1667730/page/180#p14042598

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8876 unbuffed (only golems) without conc
9757 unbuffed with conc

I am, for various reasons, using a cold to fire + avatar of fire + perandus signet setup.

with conc + pyre (i.e. the usual setup recommended in kelvynn's guide), my unbuffed average damage would stand at 10075.

so if I was using the exact setup kelv recommended in his guide, my avg damage would stand at 10075 damage, with a cast time of 0.32 seconds. that is with lvl 95, 1870 int, almost perfect jewels and gear that today would have a combined worth of around 40ex.

and yes, past a certain point, you will need to use the emperor's mastery and emperor's wit jewels to push the damage in a significant way. cant afford or dont want to buy those? expect a loss of some 500-1k avg damage. only lvl 85 instead of 95? thats another 500 avg damage less. want to spec into unwavering stance instead of relying on boot enchants or some other shenanigans? another 300 avg damage lost. want to use SR + CWC instead of SE + CD? another loss of tooltip. (that is made up, at least in parts, by the fire res debuff applied by SR...)
only using 20/0 or 19/20 gems instead of 20/20s or even 21/20s? thats another 300-500 avg damage that you lose.


the most important rule for pimping up damage numbers on this build: everything. adds. up.

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mortallol wrote:

How u get so much dmg? I'm onn 5200+ tooltip with golems up, 6k (at the end of 4s), 1466 int.
I can get maybe ~75 int after changing my belt. How much int do you have?

Can't say much except my INT is ~120 higher - maybe better jewels?

Maybe I'm using bad jewels. Could you critique my items? i'm level 88 and sitting at roughly 5.5k on the top end:

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mrutomi wrote:

What would you change about the skill tree? i'm up to level 87 with this build, so I might need to respec if I change to CWC. Also, does CE give more damage or is it the same as CD? I just made the switch on my character, but haven't respecced any points yet.

Nothing changes in the tree. Keep following the leveling guide.

Of course CE gives more damage than CD. But the radius of Icestorm is smaller with CE. So you may prefer CD for map clearing and swap it for CE for bosses.

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Syche22 wrote:

How much ES should I have to do low tier maps? my ES is extremely low for lvl 70, 5008 with disc. I can't get the unique belt or helm yet because I can't give up the res. The only pieces I can upgrade are my gloves and shoes but even minuscule upgrades are going to cost me 20-40 chaos. I'm in HC and I started with 30c.

5k ES at lv 70 is not 'extremely low' at all. 5k ES is fine for everything up to T12-13. Of course in HC you probably want to be safer, but low tier maps are no problem at all with 5k ES.

Don't facetank Merc or Uber Izaro with 5k ES. But he's easy enough to dodge.

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jon345 wrote:

Could OP/ or anyone take a look at my gear/passives and tell me what I can improve on them?

Your characters are hidden.

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kamisama07 wrote:

That wasn't covered in guide (unless I missed it somehow), but after running maps with other players, I found out that this build considered 'lag build'. I quite like this build in solo play, but in party play I'd like to have alternative to Icestorm. I tried most obvious cold spells available, but without Icestorm its a struggle to even run Dried Lake (trash is ok, but on Voll its pretty obvious that Icestorm x10 stronger).

It's only 'lag' for those with old/low-end video cards. If your friends can't handle Icestorm - that's too bad. It means they can't handle Discharge, most CoC builds and a lot more. But there is no other skill to use with this build. It's designed exclusively for Icestorm and nothing else will work with it.

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Garash wrote:

How often do you guys use Leap slam + Fortify while using CwC + SR? Is it still the best combo to use as the 3L currently listed in boots?

It depends on the content you want to do. You don't need Fortify for anything lower than T15. Or eventually at all if your gear gets to the godly level and you can do T16 without Fortify. But if you want to do T16 in a new league and you are not rich then Fortify is a life saver.

But if you aren't planning on doing T16 then you just have 3 empty sockets (4 if you use CwC, you don't need Enlighten with CwC) for whatever you like.

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mortallol wrote:

How u get so much dmg? I'm onn 5200+ tooltip with golems up, 6k (at the end of 4s), 1466 int.
I can get maybe ~75 int after changing my belt. How much int do you have?

You made a number of custom modifications to the build and they are not good. We get 'so much dmg' by following the build. ;)

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mrutomi wrote:

Maybe I'm using bad jewels. Could you critique my items? i'm level 88 and sitting at roughly 5.5k on the top end:

Spoiler

That first (corrupted) jewel is not good, only 2 mods that matter. You can find better for cheap. The other 2 jewels are kinda Ok, but low end (38 and 42 value) and could use an upgrade. See Gear-Jewels.

You will get 1 more jewel at lv 91-92, it'll help.

Your gems are 19/0. The difference between that and 20/20 is bigger than you might think.

Just wanted to pick your brain a bit on how to value jewels. If you have the first corrupted gem at a 30 value and other at a 38-42 value, how would you value izaro? would you value a perfect izaro (25 fire and 25 ice) as a 50 value? Or would you say its a bit lower since it doesn't give intelligence. if cold dmg is worth 1 point, would int also be worth 1 point? I just rechecked my tooltip and i'm at 5800 dps.

After leveling gems and upgrading jewels, what would be the next thing I'd need to upgrade to prep for the shaper fight? I have roughly 6ex of currency I can spend now on upgrades.

You dont need 20 lvl gems coz of +1 from WI. Most support gems 21 lvl=20 lvl.

@kelvynn:

since you're playing as berserker this season: how do you feel about having stun immunity only when you've killed recently? I personally have been a proponent of "we dont really need unwavering stance", so I'd be curious what you think about the "4s stun immunity" vs "permanent stun immunity".

Eeeeem, guys, I got a problem. I'm so nooby I know, but I don't know what to do now. I got 70 lvl and bought body armour 5l for all my 60 c o. It seemed for me that these build needs to be 6L (I don't know why )) ). I spent 150 fusings and got 2L chest ((. Now I'm run out of currency and my chest is not appropriate for gems. What should I do guys ? I even can't farm with it