[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

what do you think of my witch?
I'm doing the same build you
what I need to change?

Another question my temporal chains and enfeblee are not turning I already put the passive the one who is turning is warlod marks

Character: Chandon


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Aiyania wrote:

@lord_seru Question, how are we sure the warlords helm enchant gives us +.6% es mana leech?

Warlord's Mark:
Cursed enemies grant 2% Life Leech when Hit
Cursed enemies grant 2% Mana Leech when Hit

Enchantment:
30% increased Warlord's Mark Curse Effect

I actually got a confirmation back in February that the decimal part of the curse effect is not truncated.

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Rivx wrote:

Have you considered using inc. crit with orb of storms against bosses for higher overload uptime? It seems to make more sense than inc. aoe for ones that don't move around too much. Mine goes from 6.5% crit to 16.8%.

EO uptime against a static target is already pretty much 100%. You only lose it when the boss moves. OoS doesn't need any more crit support, it already crits at least once per 8 sec, in fact more often than that. And we don't have any free gem sockets for it either. The 6.5% crit chance is PER HIT.

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TeaAddict wrote:

At this point, I am not stuck...but rather want to know what I can upgrade next to drive this build even farther...

Spoiler

Your staff is 15% Int, you are missing 3% Int, or about 36-45 Int at lv 90. 18% staves are cheap, get one.

You are missing 1 curse (rare ring instead of Doedre's). You can do T15 with dual curse, but it's gonna be tough in T16 or Dark Forest.

You are missing 6% fire res on Pyre. Pyre is very cheap. Get a better one.

Your chest is 33 Int. That's weak. If you balance your resists without that crafted resist, you can craft +14 All Stats instead.

You are in the Essence league and have access to essence crafting. Int Crystal belt is better than Auxium and will solve your resist issues too.

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deeperslv wrote:

what do you think of my witch?
I'm doing the same build you
what I need to change?

Another question my temporal chains and enfeblee are not turning I already put the passive the one who is turning is warlod marks

Your profile characters are set to private and cannot be seen.

Not sure what you mean about the curses. To have all 3 curses working, you need to use Doedre's Damning, Whispers of Doom and the correct gem levels (read the Links section carefully).

sry still private?

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deeperslv wrote:

sry still private?

Ok, can see it now.

Tree is fine. Gear is mostly fine. Check if you can craft another suffix (+All Stats or a resist) on your chest. Pyre can have up to 35% fire res, can find good rolls cheap. Black Sun (even 14%) is usually better than a 300 ES hubris (I swapped a 400 ES one for 15% BSC back in March and never regretted it). You can craft a much better belt too, 2nd tier essences are cheap. Jade flask is useless, evasion doesn't work with US, use Quicksilver for movement. Bismuth isn't great either. And don't forget to add quality to the gems (see the Gems section).

i seen your Lord_Seru u seems have very little resis...how u manage to cap 75/75/75 ?

I've done several more Atziri kills and would like to note a few things.

I never actually needed 4 ruby flasks of warding. One flask of dousing is absolutely required imo, because sometimes you will tank a flameblast just before she disappears or enters healing phase, and then you're screwed because the ignites can get pretty nasty.

I use a quicksilver of staunching because the damage gain from Sulphur is very insignificant (~500 damage over my 7.5k), and being able to run out of double flameblast more reliably is very important, as sometimes you'd get caught mid casting and have little time left.

I'm not sure what the difference is between red and yellow stormcalls. I'm slightly undercapped on lightning res after switching out Doedre's (71%, 9.5k ES) and the yellow ones one-shot me, would I still get one-shot with 75%? I'm thinking of replacing one Ruby with a Topaz. It probably won't allow me to facetank the beams but not having to be so scared of taking a single hit would allow me to get significantly more damage in, as the fight is taking slightly too long.

Also I just switched out Auxium for a crystal belt, would freeze cause issues on Shaper?

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vezlaine1528 wrote:

i seen your Lord_Seru u seems have very little resis...how u manage to cap 75/75/75 ?

My profile is public. Lord_Seru's exact tree, gear and stats are posted in the Templar version as well. He has a bit overcap fire res and 73 lightning res which is fine.

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Rivx wrote:

I've done several more Atziri kills and would like to note a few things.

I never actually needed 4 ruby flasks of warding. One flask of dousing is absolutely required imo, because sometimes you will tank a flameblast just before she disappears or enters healing phase, and then you're screwed because the ignites can get pretty nasty.

I use a quicksilver of staunching because the damage gain from Sulphur is very insignificant (~500 damage over my 7.5k), and being able to run out of double flameblast more reliably is very important, as sometimes you'd get caught mid casting and have little time left.

I'm not sure what the difference is between red and yellow stormcalls. I'm slightly undercapped on lightning res after switching out Doedre's (71%, 9.5k ES) and the yellow ones one-shot me, would I still get one-shot with 75%? I'm thinking of replacing one Ruby with a Topaz. It probably won't allow me to facetank the beams but not having to be so scared of taking a single hit would allow me to get significantly more damage in, as the fight is taking slightly too long.

Also I just switched out Auxium for a crystal belt, would freeze cause issues on Shaper?

You don't need as many flasks for the regular Atziri. I carry 4 only for Uber because I need to pop one at the start of each Atziri phase and 1 at the start of each statue phase, plus sometimes an extra if Atziri dodges me and her phase takes longer. So that's 6-8 charges, and I don't like to rely on the healing/recharging phase happening. Sometimes it doesn't happen or happens right at the start when I dont need any charges yet.

Ignite? Never bothered me really. You lose ES slowly even when it happens, but you can always leech it back before you even get too low, and ignite doesn't last very long. Quicksilver for bleeding+speed? Sure, why not.

Yellow stormcalls always 1-shot. Red stormcalls are harmless in the regular version (unless you eat 3-4 at once) and have about 50/50 chance to 1-shot in the Uber version (crit/no crit). I don't know if bringing a Topaz flask will change anything. They are easy enough to dodge. You can facetank everything the Vaals do (with Topaz), regular or Uber, except their big physical slam.

For the Shaper you want to use anti-chill/freeze flasks regardless of your belt. Getting chilled is bad. His ball barrage can crit and freeze you as well, without a flask. That's if you are facetanking. He's been killed with Icestorm by dodging too (with Quicksilver). It's just not as efficient, takes longer and carries more risk of losing.

Oh I was definitely talking about uber. I usually get at least 2-3 dance phases so I feel that I can rely on being able to refill the flasks. I just end up having to move so much during the main phases that it I don't have much time to spam icestorms and as a result it goes pretty slowly. I've also died a few times if I get hit by a flameblast just as she disappears - I would be left with like a third of my ES with a big ignite ticking and several seconds before the clones appear. Dousing flask eliminates that possibility.

On Shaper, I could never tank the ball barrage, it just seems to do too much damage and it usually happens when I don't have a big icestorm stack on him so I can't leech quickly enough. I try to run in circles around him when he's talking so I don't get taken by surprise, and then position next to him so he just does melee+beam. Does the beam chill? I have no idea tbh, I use my sapphire/heat flask during that just in case but I'm not sure if it really matters. Overall it feels a lot more controlled and easier than Atziri.

It's an ok build. I ran this to lvl 86. It is inferior to many builds in terms of clear speed and just straight up worse than the templar version of Whispering Ice (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1697785). But budget friendly.

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0ne_ wrote:

It is inferior to many builds in terms of clear speed and just straight up worse than the templar version of Whispering Ice. But budget friendly.

I have both WI builds (the templar is on standard) as well as a few others. I don't see how you can make such a strong statement. Both builds handle content competently. I can understand people may differ in terms of playstyle preferences, but "straight up worse" is simply incorrect.

The main advantage of WaffleT's version is that it is much better for parties because of all the auras.

If clear speed is the main criteria, Kelvynn has a Scion version that's faster than this witch version.

In terms of budget, this build is way less expensive to start out than WaffleT's, but actually seems more expensive if you really want to min-max.