When Chris says that lab haters are a minority, how right is he?

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Shagsbeard wrote:

Given that about 2% of the players ever check the forums, even if your poll shows 100% of the people hating it, it could still very easily represent a minority.

And it could equally well be the case that even if the poll shows "only" 49% of people hating the labyrinth, the true percentage is much higher.

I'm with the 49% if I wanted a rogue platformer I'd just buy one on steam.

the lab is the worst thing they've added to the game. the fact that you are largely forced to do it just to get your class specialization is what i consider the biggest BS of it all. i wouldn't hate the lab if it were more along the lines of atziri which is an optional zone.

The problem with the labs is not the lab itself but if you die you start all over that AND the rewards are trash.

If you didn't have to start all over the entire attitude about labs would change.

I can win ubber lab with my eyes closed Izaro hits like a little girl.

Lab is horrible and caused my entire guild to fall apart and many players to leave or retire me included. It was more of a last straw for me as the game had many issues before lab.

"LEXIT" votes are in, 50% hate it, 25% neutral+like it.
Time to end the lab grinds Chris.


Look, the lab is ok, a fun thing to do, but not when being forced in order to get absolutely vital ascendancy points, for every char, over and over again.

Doing all trials on each difficulty should grant the 2 asc points.
Leave the lab to those who want to enchant gloves/boots/head.
That should be their lab run reward.

I literally stopped spending money on Poe since the lab came,
and am now even considering moving on to other games.
Having to grind that fucking lab every time I do a new char only to get "special passive skill points"
is just too much.

Ive stopped checking the forums very often because of the same handful of people constantly making new threads crying about lab.

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tramshed wrote:

Ive stopped checking the forums very often because of the same handful of people constantly making new threads crying about lab.

Seriously. How the hell is the lab this upsetting? I can maybe understand complaints about lab heavily favoring particular builds, but that's still not that big of a deal imo.

Getting disconnected in the middle of a run is shit, but that's not entirely a problem of the lab itself.

Get to level 60, blow through norm and cruel labs for 4 points. Continue finishing merc, dried lake runs, maps, and throw in your merc lab run somewhere inbetween. Maybe I'll die (SC) and have to retry again once or twice. "OH NO THE GAME IS CHALLENGING ME THIS GAME SUCKS NOW!!!"

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larkstongue wrote:

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tramshed wrote:

Ive stopped checking the forums very often because of the same handful of people constantly making new threads crying about lab.

Seriously. How the hell is the lab this upsetting? I can maybe understand complaints about lab heavily favoring particular builds, but that's still not that big of a deal imo.

Getting disconnected in the middle of a run is shit, but that's not entirely a problem of the lab itself.

Get to level 60, blow through norm and cruel labs for 4 points. Continue finishing merc, dried lake runs, maps, and throw in your merc lab run somewhere inbetween. Maybe I'll die (SC) and have to retry again once or twice. "OH NO THE GAME IS CHALLENGING ME THIS GAME SUCKS NOW!!!"

People do not, do not like the lab for many reasons. It is not about it being challenging, it is not for most people. We know how to do it,WE JUST HATE IT. Now GGG cannot say lab haters are the minority anymore and a lot people have very good suggestions on how to make the content better. Your opinion is that you like it. My opinion is that I hate it. The only challenge I see for me is fighting boredom.

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Ladylunar wrote:

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larkstongue wrote:

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tramshed wrote:

Ive stopped checking the forums very often because of the same handful of people constantly making new threads crying about lab.

Seriously. How the hell is the lab this upsetting? I can maybe understand complaints about lab heavily favoring particular builds, but that's still not that big of a deal imo.

Getting disconnected in the middle of a run is shit, but that's not entirely a problem of the lab itself.

Get to level 60, blow through norm and cruel labs for 4 points. Continue finishing merc, dried lake runs, maps, and throw in your merc lab run somewhere inbetween. Maybe I'll die (SC) and have to retry again once or twice. "OH NO THE GAME IS CHALLENGING ME THIS GAME SUCKS NOW!!!"

People do not, do not like the lab for many reasons. It is not about it being challenging, it is not for most people. We know how to do it,WE JUST HATE IT. Now GGG cannot say lab haters are the minority anymore and a lot people have very good suggestions on how to make the content better. Your opinion is that you like it. My opinion is that I hate it. The only challenge I see for me is fighting boredom.

That's all well and good. I suppose what confuses me here is why people are so worked up about it, saying they're going to quit playing and that it needs to be removed or what not, when really you do not have to invest that much time at all in the lab.

It's simply another feature, it isn't the end game. I think of it as I do the bandits quest. I've done it a thousand times, I don't particularly enjoy it, but it takes very little effort and benefits the progression of my character. It warrants no complaint on my part. Same with the lab. In the grand scope of my character's play timeit takes just a second to do, and I get super awesome ascendancy powers to boot...