Chitus' Betrayal - resolving the Labyrinth crisis

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Telzen wrote:

Seems like a pretty cool idea. But I'd bet most of the people who hate the labyrinth will still find issues with this way of ascending too.

If its not free then its not good enough.

No Kappa

Yeah, you basically are suggesting trading Happy Fun Trap Time for Happy Fun Trap Time.

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Braindead1010562 wrote:

I'd rather be bored going through the lab than have to slog through act 4 and then run my face into Malachai in merciless, I hate the Malachai fight more than i do the stupid traps. For normal and cruel yeah it would be an alternative and because you have to fight Malachai anyway i'd do that. GGG have to change something to give an alternative way of getting ascendancy points even if it's just as simple as giving you 1 continue per lab attempt (Hopefully you know what i mean) that'd help

So what do you want? Get the Ascendancy points for free once you create a new character?

Anyways. I think it would have to bypass the traps for people to like it. So make it drop from Malachai with a 25%-50% chance, and the item gives you one shot at Izaro, the three stages only, with onslaught. You die, you have to try again. No traps, but still challenging.

The only thing that I don't like is putting it some monster which is mandatory to kill anyways (Malachai). Not sure what to do about that.

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Telzen wrote:

Seems like a pretty cool idea. But I'd bet most of the people who hate the labyrinth will still find issues with this way of ascending too.

We have literally suggested this countless times and every single one of them a swarm of white knights defended the precious labyrinth. Not only this but we have suggested alternatives too. Yet when a white knight suggests this it becomes a cool idea? ? For fucks sake how immature can people be? Wake up and put your ego aside.


+1 on the suggestion as i said before

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Regulator wrote:

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Telzen wrote:

Seems like a pretty cool idea. But I'd bet most of the people who hate the labyrinth will still find issues with this way of ascending too.

We have literally suggested this countless times and every single one of them a swarm of white knights defended the precious labyrinth. Not only this but we have suggested alternatives too. Yet when a white knight suggests this it becomes a cool idea? ? For fucks sake how immature can people be? Wake up and put your ego aside.


+1 on the suggestion as i said before

Agree with something the devs do = white knight.


Like you really don't know what that is suppose to mean.

There need be no alternatives because its fine as is. People dont like many aspects of the game and they aren't going anywhere or getting changed, neither will the lab. Quit your futile effort before you make yourself look worst then you already do man.

I'd rather make lab hc death free. I mean a hc char won't rip there to avoid the only meaningful beef that people can have with lab: be killed by lag spikes+ traps. Then it will give hc players the chance to learn to avoid traps without complaining because "oh shit, i choose a game mode with one life only!"

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I would not find good to give devs days of work because someone cannot handle a proper challenge for 20 minutes playing very chilled.

We won't probably see any way to bypass the labyrinth in the near future (I bet GGG is going as levelheaded as possible and betting for reform, but if it keeps being disliked, they may change it, or not, they are really sadistic).

Anyway, it's not a bad thing to give suggestions.

I don't see the point of this suggestion.
The Labyrinth is not boring because you have to run it once in each difficulty to get the points, it is boring because you have to run it a lot for the enchantments.

If you want to "save" time anywhere or want to make something more rewarding / easy, it should be the enchantment-aspect.

If a person can't be bothered to run it ONCE in each difficulty, simply to earn the Ascendancy Points, than this person is not worthy of getting them to begin with ;-).

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Jankalor wrote:

I don't see the point of this suggestion.
The Labyrinth is not boring because you have to run it once in each difficulty to get the points, it is boring because you have to run it a lot for the enchantments.

If you want to "save" time anywhere or want to make something more rewarding / easy, it should be the enchantment-aspect.

If a person can't be bothered to run it ONCE in each difficulty, simply to earn the Ascendancy Points, than this person is not worthy of getting them to begin with ;-).

The suggestion is the middle ground.

People are bitching about having to run it at all for points, this lets you run it once after completing core quests to get them

Enchantments stay as is.

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Regulator wrote:

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Telzen wrote:

Seems like a pretty cool idea. But I'd bet most of the people who hate the labyrinth will still find issues with this way of ascending too.

We have literally suggested this countless times and every single one of them a swarm of white knights defended the precious labyrinth. Not only this but we have suggested alternatives too. Yet when a white knight suggests this it becomes a cool idea? ? For fucks sake how immature can people be? Wake up and put your ego aside.


+1 on the suggestion as i said before

With all respect, but it is hard to dig out the pearls from all the insults and derogatory comments. Honestly, I haven't seen a single time anything like this, and believe me - I read most of the things that have been written in the threads. What I'm trying to say, is that the way you are arguing isn't helping the case. Nothing else. And please, don't fucking bash me for no reason again.

Then again, we can simply agree on the idea (or not), or bring some polish to it (it might be far from perfect, but it is a good start, right?) instead of rolling the hate trains against each other again?

Also, why the heck are you still calling me a white knight... You never learn, do you? :/ I'm really trying my best to resolve this thing, yet you STILL have to bash me for... well, I don't even know what it is anymore.

Again, to anyone who says this isn't good idea, because Lab is fun - YOU find it fun (even I find it fun), but some people doesn't. Lets find a consensus, instead of pushing the cart in our direction, ok?

Lets see both side of the coin, hold our hands together, and praise Chris... please? D-:

I call to being civil AGAIN, yet there will be someone to drop shit on me, because I happen to like the Lab.