[2.4 VIDEO] #1 Pathfinder PHC - Blade Vortex flask build. Uber atziri video. Easy lvling

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Relytz wrote:

Alright, I see. So the Master Surgeon's affect is very good for keeping up flasks?

In terms of flask sustain, Master Surgeon crushes Nature's Boon. You're pretty confused about Pathfinder if you think otherwise. The Master Surgeon path is essentially mandatory for this build. The real question is what you end up doing with the other points. Switching to Boon from Bowyer is likely going to be a thing now.

After some testing this is what I came up with. I think CI is the way to go as well.
First time I'll play BV, so keep that in mind.

Any tips or suggestions?
- Not sure if I need the reduced reserved mana nodes at the scion start for Discipline+Hatred. What do you think?
- If the flask charge regeneration isn't good enough I might switch to Nature's Boon from Veteran Bowyer as suggested but I think it should be alright
- I want to run the secondary BV+PCoC+CoH+WM setup mentioned by Bogok for some charges and leech, but I'm not that sure if and how it works. Is it just enough to cast it once on 19 stacks to get the effect? Otherwise I have to re-plan the build a bit, I guess.

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Purexec wrote:

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAAG8A-4FQgceDXwOSA5cD6sRLxFQEZYV1xa_GDwYVhmKGo8bJR2-IG4i9CSLJJ0o-ioLKjgrCiycLKYsvy2oM4c0CjW5N2Y9X0GWRA1FfkZxSVFJsUuuTLNQMFJTVmNXyV3yX2piWmr6bAttGXBSdf1_xoLHgwmEb4TFhq6J04w2j_qQ1pMnlS6XBpeVl_SbjZu1oS-nK66zsZC0DLVIuZO9J76AvorDCcM6xKLI8MrTzqjQH9DQ0PXTftRC18_ZW9-Y6QLquutj6_XsGO9674jv6_DV8h322vk3-ej7CQ==

- I want to run the secondary BV+PCoC+CoH+WM setup mentioned by Bogok for some charges and leech, but I'm not that sure if and how it works. Is it just enough to cast it once on 19 stacks to get the effect? Otherwise I have to re-plan the build a bit, I guess.

I think multiple instances of BV has their own stack count? I can't remember

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Purexec wrote:

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAAG8A-4FQgceDXwOSA5cD6sRLxFQEZYV1xa_GDwYVhmKGo8bJR2-IG4i9CSLJJ0o-ioLKjgrCiycLKYsvy2oM4c0CjW5N2Y9X0GWRA1FfkZxSVFJsUuuTLNQMFJTVmNXyV3yX2piWmr6bAttGXBSdf1_xoLHgwmEb4TFhq6J04w2j_qQ1pMnlS6XBpeVl_SbjZu1oS-nK66zsZC0DLVIuZO9J76AvorDCcM6xKLI8MrTzqjQH9DQ0PXTftRC18_ZW9-Y6QLquutj6_XsGO9674jv6_DV8h322vk3-ej7CQ==

After some testing this is what I came up with. I think CI is the way to go as well.
First time I'll play BV, so keep that in mind.

Any tips or suggestions?
- Not sure if I need the reduced reserved mana nodes at the scion start for Discipline+Hatred. What do you think?
- If the flask charge regeneration isn't good enough I might switch to Nature's Boon from Veteran Bowyer as suggested but I think it should be alright
- I want to run the secondary BV+PCoC+CoH+WM setup mentioned by Bogok for some charges and leech, but I'm not that sure if and how it works. Is it just enough to cast it once on 19 stacks to get the effect? Otherwise I have to re-plan the build a bit, I guess.

About the secondary BV curse/charge setup you rather cast it first (just one cast is fine) and then charge your DPS BV, and yes different BV count towards the same cap, in AoW that will be 20. So 19 DPS BV and 1 Utility BV

Yo guys. I was just wondering: if now the cap limit is 20, does still make sense to go for poison from Master Herbalist?

Good for the upcoming league softcore?

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Edeka wrote:

Good for the upcoming league softcore?

Please read the thread :(

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Purexec wrote:

After some testing this is what I came up with. I think CI is the way to go as well.
First time I'll play BV, so keep that in mind.

Any tips or suggestions?

I'm going for almost the exact Tree, I believe the mana reserve nodes are worth it, but I'll be skilling them as I see the need (Charisma goes for sure)

This is my plan for now: We grab quite a few nodes that are close to important life clusters, so I'm going hybrid, perhaps even into early maps, maybe using Ghost Reave + Cybil's to sustain ES+Life (Maybe, depending on how the gearing goes) and later transitioning into full CI. It should be around 12-16 regrets in my tree, something you can even get from quests, so it shouldn't be that painful.

So, this will be my 38pt tree. Notice I'm switching the starting nodes to get to some dmg faster.

This is 80pts hybrid. From here I might transition directly to CI if I can afford it (14 regrets)

If I can't, this is the plan, with cybils+GhostReaver
This would be the same tree after transition (~lvl 80) again, it's 16 regrets, you can get that just doing Victario's secrets and Indomitable spirit in all 3 diffs + Dirty Job twice

Final Tree (If I were to grind to 100, I'd get 3 more jewel sockets)

Hey guys, I assume from all the discussion happening here that this build can and will be viable for 2.4. Unfortunately, I am not really experienced enough to make my own builds nor work my own tree. I am going to follow the tree and gem-setup that the OP has used in the build, (atleast until changes/updates are made) atleast just into t1-t9 maps. My question is will that be okay or are there some changes that I could do without too much trouble? (minor tree changes, gem setup, i noticed some suggested changing faster casting/spell echo with some dmg support -> What kind of damage support?, etc).

I also guess CI would be better but trying to path out a proper tree for it seems mind boggling for me. xD
I noticed "Rathke" had posted a tree but he had suggested using Cybil's paw. Will that be till end-game mate?

or if anyone can share their tree when they start new league with BV, I would really appreciate it.

How would you do bandits for the CI version? passive/phys/power charge?