2.3 Pathfinder - CoC Blocker 9.5k ES 71% block 75% Spell block Uber/Core Viable [Videos inside]
Regarding the lvl 4 Empower vs Conc Effect vs Cont Dest:
Empower: Bladefall changes from 380-570 to 500-750 from lvls 20-23 for 31% MORE damage (since this is multiplied by the increased and the more damage modifiers, it works identically to a more damage modifier). This is spell damage, so it doesn't double dip for poison BV goes from 108-162 to 131-197 for 21% more damage, not a huge change since BV isn't our main source of damage. It has a 125% mana multiplier. This is probably around a 29% MORE damage increase for us then. It has to be considered that if using a pure blue chest (only int requirements) this gem would force you to run 5-off colours... Along with the price of the gem itself (11ex) this might be a pricey choice. Controlled destruction: Cont destruction sports a 44% MORE damage, but it comes at the price of 100% reduced (so it's substracted from increased modifiers you have) critical chance, which will mostly end up affecting flask recharge rate, this is significant against single targets. Note that this is spell damage, it doesn't double-dip for poison. It has a 130% mana multiplier. Concentrated effect: Conc effect gives you 59% MORE damage, this is area damage so poison double-dips from it (for an insane 150% MORE poison damage). It comes at the drawback of the 25% LESS area of effect, this hurts a bit since it also decreases the effect of the Blast Radius nodes we were picking up on the witch side of the tree. It hurts the clearing speed but greatly increases the DPS. It's important to note, a smaller area increases the overlap area of bladefall waves, giving a potential (and really hard to calculate) increase in single-target DPS. It has 140% mana multiplier. So, in conclusion: Empower gives you the least damage of the three choices, and less mana multiplier. This is also the most expensive choice currency wise (11ex for the gem, and then some for colouring your chest). Conc effect gives you the most damage of the three choices (by FAR), in exchange for less AoE for clearing and the highest mana multiplier of the three. Cont destruction gives you a happy medium of damage and manacost, with the drawback being that less crits means that flasks are recharging a bit slower. As a final note: Each Bladefall wave deals 380-570 while Ethereal Knives deal 459–688, this means that if enemies are getting hit by a single wave, socketing EK instead of a support represents 120% MORE damage increase, if it's getting hit by two waves it becomes 60% MORE damage, and on the RARE case of a mob getting hit by three waves it becomes a 40% MORE damage increase, all while giving you additional crit procs for flask refill, and on a 100% mana multiplier (so the least mana cost of ALL choices). This makes EK as a third spell comparable in damage to Conc effect, with less mana multiplier and no AoE penalty, and additional crit instances. It's almost strictly better than Cont destruction (Visibility is a huge factor here though, you have to know what's going on). Though getting 5 greens on a Vaal Regalia sounds like a pain. Last edited by Orangesilk#6411 on Apr 14, 2016, 12:41:10 PM
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" Many people seem to have the misunderstanding about how diamond flask works, with 50% crit chance and diamond up, you will have 75% crit chance - and the more crit the better to refil our flasks |
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" With assassins mark you can actually reach 100% though :) |
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" This is definitely a solid options, much easier to colour as well iirc, usually just more expensive than a white regalia or the divination cards |
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" Wow super solid analysis of the gem selection, do you mind if i add this to the main part of the guide? as a personal input, im running CD and have no problems refilling flasks even with the lowered crit chance, but thanks for the calculations! |
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Yeah, feel free to use it as you see fit.
The crit part for CD was mostly because some people have reported having troubles keeping their flasks up, and while crit is very item and passive dependant, IF you have problems with flask uptime, swapping CD might help. IF you feel like you have no troubles keeping flasks up then theres really no drawback from CD. Or IF youre into absolute minmax beast DPS, CE is a great choice, all in all its up to personal choice. Though Im a huge advocate of EK IF you dont mind The 5 greens and are okay with ridiculous screen clutter. |
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How are you generating power charges if your power charge on critical strike gem is level 62 in a level 44 CWDT setup?
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I've since looked a bit into lucky and understand how it works a lot better. However, I still believe going beyond a certain crit point you're better off with multi. Lucky scales crit in an interesting way, you get the most benefit from it at 50% crit and it scales parabolically in either direction. So yes, while your flask uptime scales with crit beyond a certain point you have all the charges you need, so idk, at this point I've decided the spell crit near witch isn't worth the point budget, I'd have to drop es to grab it. I'm lv90 almost 91 now, and I've grabbed a heretics veil and dropped mings heart so I can run vulnerability + ass mark.
Can rainbowstrides + a reckless defense jewel be enough for spellblock cap? I'm looking at upgrading away from rathpith, but I don't really want to use a lazhwar ammy if I can help it ign - Zilead
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" Empower doesn't affect support gems. Last edited by krameriffic2#0157 on Apr 13, 2016, 7:19:25 PM
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" It can't . But a +1 Curse Stone isn't a bad choice as you free lot's of Skill points with it. You sepnt 5 points in only Int + Curse duration nodes , which only bring you some Es . You might end up with similar Dps if you spent them elswhere , weither picking Jewel slot @ Scion or taking Spellcrit/multi+Spelldamage @ Which. Many good options are left till you reach max Level. Cheers Last edited by Xentos78#1244 on Apr 14, 2016, 2:42:54 AM
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