{3.0} Necronomicon / Raise Spectre Monster Info...[The Unofficial Minion Wiki]

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grandanes wrote:

I did at least a hundred desecrates in factory and academy today, no Slashed Miscreations in either one. Where are you supposed to find those now besides demonic maps?

I'll try to get more solid info here. There is got to be a map that spawns them 100%.

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KuaiGon wrote:

Will Sentinels benefit tho? wouldn't be better to raise some physical dmg based Spectres? Also, would ACD be of any use with phys Spectres, Sentinels or Cannibals? (I'm liking the Cannibals af!) Thanks in advance for your insight on this and for this whole thread.

Sentinels will benefit only if your using the atziripromise + belt combo. B/c of the double dipping mechanics any source of poisoning will double every other support gem and sheet stat which makes poison gem or poison adding mechanics insanely strong. Spell caster spectre also benefit from being able to shoot really fast, so 4 spectre are stacking a lot of poison.

Best phy spectre right now is Slashed miscreations. Hopefully we will have some cool alternatives in 3.0 =).

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irgoto wrote:

Would u still consider Flame sentinals still the best all around pick? Currently im 89 and I have been using them since DL Merc. They are amazing buy my mind is starting to wonder about other options and possibilities.. Im using NA with Victario's Charity i was trying out the undying grapplers, but i had problems getting them going nor could they even kill the temple boss. Solo fights with them are no good. I was also told that your Goatman Fire-Raiser would get hammered by the hydra boss? What are you currently using ?

I still think they are overall the best for general map clearing all the way to T15. Goatman and merveil blessed are great as well.

For T16 and up and bosses with lots of hp you'll want something more single target focused like cannibals or slashed miscreations.

woow lol, so I just ran like 10 maps last night, bunch of beach, oasis, dunes, desert maps...
didn't get a single cannibal fire-eater :O I think I just got super unlucky lol. where u find these mofos?

I'm currently using United in dream with srs, zombros and Cannibals (I only have only found them in The Coast Area and Shore maps). Using Victario's Charity and 6L Spectres in a Lvl 89

Links: Minion dmg + Faster proj/Slower Proj + Added chaos + Cdest + Ele focus

I have killed Malchai in Core with this setup and feel like added chaos on these spectres works good due to the spectres skill repeating very fast. I might be wrong but the damage is really there, i'm having quite the blast :D any thoughts?

I will now try the Sentinels and Miscreations, tho i feel like for bosses Cannibals are very strong!

no idea how added chaos is calculated on their incinerate.
6L I'd probably use gmp+faster proj(slowproj+pierce/fasterproj single target)
oh fire pen is also decent multi once u do the math.

"tho i feel like for bosses Cannibals are very strong!"
I'm so tired of current spectres :\ I want something new and cool from Act 5 come March!
a balanced spectre would be nice. better range than cannibals, higher singletarget than sentinels...

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Lacceh wrote:

woow lol, so I just ran like 10 maps last night, bunch of beach, oasis, dunes, desert maps...
didn't get a single cannibal fire-eater :O I think I just got super unlucky lol. where u find these mofos?

I just roll my maps with alc and save anything that has the mod "inhabited by humanoids", it's usually 99% chance having fire eaters (I have never seen one that doesn't have fire eaters, but I don't know, it might exist). Alternatively, you can just buy a map from poe.trade, it's a searchable mod

Then when I want to play my summoner, I just start with 1 of these maps, and get my fire eaters this way.

The real pain are map flame sentinels, I feel they are much harder to come by.

Colonnade for flame sentinels.

Hi again! Happy holydays!

So i tried Sentinels and in spite that the clearspeed is certainly top tier among spectres, i feel like going life based or hybrid (as i like to go) makes using Umbilicus risky so i chose to go with Miscreations to obtain full benefit from poison provided by United in Dream.

With 20%q Spectres get some movement speed which is terribly welcome, but i read somewhere that theirs is capped at an unknown point tho quality is fairly noticeable.

I have only encountered Slashed Miscreation in the wild in Shipyard map (T12) without any mods affecting map pool :)


PS: As Matt pointed in the guide, Miscreations deal a serious amount of damage, and i want to believe that they are hard to raise for that reason.

In my opinion, the best minions are: Flame Sentinels, Goatman Fire-raisers, and Merveil's Blessed. And I think they use the same links too, or very similar ones: minion damage, spell echo, increased aoe, gmp, faster proj.

Personally I'm really liking Merveil's Blessed and end up using them whenever I can find them. I don't think increased aoe is even necessary for them since their aoe is normally good, so I'd switch that out for controlled destruction.

I'm thinking either controlled destruction or ice bite for them. Ice Bite might synergize well with a frostbite curse, giving my minions frenzy charges.

Goatman Fire-raisers are superior in dps, I think, to flame sentinels. But with faster proj adding increased aoe feels mandatory to clear effectively for some reason- I used to run fire pen instead of faster proj.

Cannibal Fire-eaters are painful to clear with, despite faster proj. If only they had more range or even a lantern-bearer similar kind of spell (similar to how the goats have magma orbs or fireballs depending on their distance to the mobs). The positive is that their dps is so damn good.

I haven't tried phys spectres other than knitted horrors but that was leagues back. Are slashed miscreations really that good?

the Flame sentinels also Spawn in Residence and Temple.

I'm fairly sure that minions update with support gems in real time, now. Might want to remove that part.