{3.0} Necronomicon / Raise Spectre Monster Info...[The Unofficial Minion Wiki]

BTW I completely forgot I had this.

Minion stat values from Rory_GGG. It still looks pretty accurate I think?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YHoN25bHvWyAk9_cpRneOIYwhSC7GWVW8letpvFX68/edit#gid=0

i had forgoten about breach portal damn, atm im trying to run 2 cannibals 1 flame sent and 3 fire golems, the cannibal single target is realy of the charts, and the sent + golems realy does a number clearing trash.

Breach portal grants souls for vaal skills?

I think those values are very outdated. Both Zombies and Spirits have had their damage changed a lot of times since that was posted.
On a comepletely unrelated note ill share my spreadsheet for Desecrate-able corpses in maps.

The link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Foi1iatWiqN0QwUTVyeF9CNjQ/view?usp=sharing

I havent been able to play a lot last league but this table gives a rough estimate where to get your spectres. The trick is to bring already raised spectres of the chosen type/s ( for low lvl maps I brought 4 different just to get this doc started) and then desecrate+SEcho the hell out of it till you get the needed corpses.
The entries are organised this way X+Y/Z. First is the number of maps where I could desecrate spectre without meeting that mob type in the map, the second number is the amount of maps that spawned with that mob type, third is the total number of maps that have been writen down. (Sometimes I was lazy and didn't put the data in/ was to tired)
So, for example,
for Evangelists in Crematorium +3/3 reads as 0+3/3 and means: 0 times i brought the mob and got the spectre with desecrate without mob spawning in map, 3 times met them in map, 3 total map runs
or for Flame Sentinels in Courtyard 3/3 reads as 3+0/3 and means: 3 successful attempts to bring spectre to map and get a high lvl corpse out of 3 total maps.

The result list is color coded to quickly see if the spectres are available in more than 60% of map of this kind. So far the data shows that you either can desecrate mob/meet it in map OR the mob NEVER spawns in the map.

Edit: Maybe this will inflate the cost of some maps, sorry dedicated summoners for inconvenience, I am one of you and will share that fate.

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Breach portal grants souls for vaal skills?

No. But it will trigger on kill effects.

@noferatualeks

Thanks for this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Foi1iatWiqN0QwUTVyeF9CNjQ/view?usp=sharing

so this data is only valid after you raised the spectre you wanted already?

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mattc3303 wrote:

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Breach portal grants souls for vaal skills?

No. But it will trigger on kill effects.

@noferatualeks

Thanks for this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Foi1iatWiqN0QwUTVyeF9CNjQ/view?usp=sharing

so this data is only valid after you raised the spectre you wanted already?

Yes, the first column is valid only if you already have raised the needed spectre somewhere and then opened the map. Dont know if it is determined at map opening or it is character specific and you can just walk into someones Phoenyx Lair and upgrede Eternal lab Flame Sentinels to T16.
The second column, on the other hand, shows the approximate chance for mob to spawn on map, though the sample size is too low to get any specific chance.

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mattc3303 wrote:

BTW I completely forgot I had this.

Minion stat values from Rory_GGG. It still looks pretty accurate I think?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13YHoN25bHvWyAk9_cpRneOIYwhSC7GWVW8letpvFX68/edit#gid=0

those seem to be very outdated stats. they had changed zombie res to 35/70/35 I believe, and now with latest patch it's 40/40/40 and 20 chaos. baseline 40 allres 20 chaos for all totems and other minions, according to patch notes. I'm not sure if this also applies to spectres...
I don't think it does.
http://poedb.tw/us/gem.php?n=Raise+Zombie
http://poedb.tw/us/mon.php?n=Flame+Sentinel

Okiafther input, some math and some thinking, i have now made a new gem setup.



As you can see i now run 8 auras, have anger + envy on generosity. i can if i decide it later switch clarity for either whirling blades or a vaal skill. but atm i realy enjoy having that 8th aura resulting in a total of 80% increased damage and 40% cast atk speed. I am in a testing phase when it comes to spectres, between canibals, goatmen and flame sents. the flame sents seems to have the best survival, but goatmen are also realy strong in survival, canibals seems a bit more squishy but have the best dps ofc.

Also started looking for immortalis belt, think il get a immortalis belt run dying sun flask x1 vinktar x1 atziri x1 or 2 not decided and 1 overflowing chalice.

give me input :) thats why i post in this forum, love the discusion between us dedicated summoners :)

"edit" Been using some t16 canibals, along whit 3 fire golems, well lets just say the clear speed + boss kill speed is of the chart :) so for now il test that, do some shaper kills and uber kills see how it feels :)

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Furywrath wrote:

Okiafther input, some math and some thinking, i have now made a new gem setup.

As you can see i now run 8 auras, have anger + envy on generosity. i can if i decide it later switch clarity for either whirling blades or a vaal skill. but atm i realy enjoy having that 8th aura resulting in a total of 80% increased damage and 40% cast atk speed. I am in a testing phase when it comes to spectres, between canibals, goatmen and flame sents. the flame sents seems to have the best survival, but goatmen are also realy strong in survival, canibals seems a bit more squishy but have the best dps ofc.

Also started looking for immortalis belt, think il get a immortalis belt run dying sun flask x1 vinktar x1 atziri x1 or 2 not decided and 1 overflowing chalice.

give me input :) thats why i post in this forum, love the discusion between us dedicated summoners :)

"edit" Been using some t16 canibals, along whit 3 fire golems, well lets just say the clear speed + boss kill speed is of the chart :) so for now il test that, do some shaper kills and uber kills see how it feels :)

Seems interesting. Since you are so wealthy, I assume you have a good pc too, so could you make a video? :)

Hehe i have a decent comp. Never made a vid before, but il give it a shot to morrow night.

so i have been testing, and either they have silently nerfed damage of flame sents. or this sword is not better then a 4th spectre from midnight bargain or my skills as a summoner has rapidly decreased. i killed shapre deathless in essence whit basicly same gear. Now my dps is mutch lower. Il get a copple more lev go back to 4 spectres and the exact same setup as essence to see.