[2.2] 100% chaos ICE TRAPPER - UBER down (T15 Abyss Double Boss fight in 10 sec!!)

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1) I was not wrong here you just didnt provide the character tab at the moment of me writing that post. 4 mana off is very low error margin.

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2) I would like to see your run without mana flask in -60% mana regen map.
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(Running with 100.8 Manareg right now) thats more than enough even for - 20/40/60% less Mana/LifeReg Mods.

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3) So you just agreed with me here... (shock..)

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4) See point 2). Prove me im wrong that you will not have to make STOPS on less regen map which result on overall 20-50% longer time to run the map... Especially when we use WB with daggers to move faster between packs.

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5) So do that. I have too much of an experience in balancing builds to spot plain lie... Numbers say you are lyin.

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It's not about being an asshole, but building false image to inexperienced players that will try and fail to get same results as you.


I wont even respond to @hankinsohl, because he haven't brought any valid points to the discussion... (I heard, I saw, Hear my story)
It's better to operate on raw numbers and persist in the belief that sooner or later you WILL get hit, then what? (thats how you create a build for HC)

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Vendetta wrote:

They say you will get there in time...If you calculate, you get flat 12 life or 15 correct me if i am wrong for any level you get...Meaning 71 to 90 you have 19 levels...19*15 = 285 life flat...With x% to life witch I guess it applies to the other flat life, you might end up at 4.500 by the time you are 90...

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Character level

The character level is used for a variety of purposes, most importantly character level will be a limiting factor for equipment.

The character level can be increased though gaining experience which is obtained by slaying monsters.

Once a certain threshold is reached, the character will level up gaining 1 passive skill point and the following bonuses:

+12 Life per Level
+2 Accuracy Rating per Level
+3.0 Evasion Rating per Level
+6 Mana per Level

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frenchlion wrote:

"might". but it's low, i agree :(

i have a few +6% life jewels, so we might aim for +9% ones.. if it exists.

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hankinsohl wrote:

@ÐeathwinG
I took a look at your build and gear - looks nice.

Since you're in standard, I was expecting that your high DPS would be achieved via a legacy Consuming Dark + Infernal Mantle setup with a crit/spell-damage rare dagger. Interesting to see that such good DPS numbers are possible without a legacy dagger.

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ÐeathwinG wrote:

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1) I was not wrong here you just didnt provide the character tab at the moment of me writing that post. 4 mana off is very low error margin.

I Upload two Links with Ice Trap Buffed DPS, where you could clearly see its 106 Mana with both gems. Anyway its really a slight error margin but you there inaccurate.

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2) I would like to see your run without mana flask in -60% mana regen map.
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(Running with 100.8 Manareg right now) thats more than enough even for - 20/40/60% less Mana/LifeReg Mods.

You welcomed to join any -60% mana regen map with me. Then words doesn´t help, live play may do the job. You shudn´t discount the benefit of using Inc.AoE Gem, the increased area of effect radius have a HUGE Benefit for overall clearspeed on Trash Mobs -> less trap useage -> less mana needed and you still be able to 1-shot most monsters, if not the DoT will do the job on the way moving forward. I only switch to conc.effect before Boss.

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3) So you just agreed with me here... (shock..)

3) Why i would not agree in this case!? This build issn´t about defensive mechanics at all, that counts even more for standard league play. Your primary goal is to 1shot everything, so monsters aren´t able to do any damage to you (dead monsters can´t do any damage, right!?) even if you can´t 1shot the whole screen full of mobs by initial IceTrap hit, the DoT will most likly be able to do the job. And by playing smart and using flasks correctly you can avoid being a 1-Shot-Wonder yourself. If you survive first damage burst, monsters won´t - its that simple. Numbers are numbers, theory is theory and praxis is what really happens.

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4) See point 2). Prove me im wrong that you will not have to make STOPS on less regen map which result on overall 20-50% longer time to run the map... Especially when we use WB with daggers to move faster between packs.

4) see point 2). But let me indicate something, you came up first with this: "you most certainly HAVE TO run mana flask not only in no mana regen maps but overall" - that statement is just pure Bullshit - and then you go directly over to "have to make STOPS on less regen map" And yeah that happens on 60% less mana regen maps without a doubt not all time but from time to time you get some sort of a "Stop", you don´t have to be a genius to see that coming, easy math but does that mean i absolutly need any Manaflask at all!? No! Would it help to use one!? Sure! Need I more time for Mapclears!? Probably. Does that matter!? Rather not, unless you are in a race for whatever. I mean how deep you are going to dig to find drawbacks for a high manareg version, to give you a "prove" that your EB/ZO version handles less manaregen mapmods way easier, cpt. obvious!?

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5) So do that. I have too much of an experience in balancing builds to spot plain lie... Numbers say you are lyin.

I respect your game/build experience and you can play the way you want all day long, i really don´t care - why i shud do so!? If it works for you, it works - is exactly that easy!
But you way off, if you really call me an liar...i have to take this personal and it´s a pleasure and honour to prove you wrong.
I mean i roll maps for packsize all day long and here and then i roll stuff like -60% Manareg and i´m still able to fullclear maps without any use of a manaflask and you can tell/call me whatever you want - I PLAY THAT WAY and it WORKS, if you are to mindless to get that, i´m sorry for you!

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It's not about being an asshole, but building false image to inexperienced players that will try and fail to get same results as you.


I wont even respond to @hankinsohl, because he haven't brought any valid points to the discussion... (I heard, I saw, Hear my story)
It's better to operate on raw numbers and persist in the belief that sooner or later you WILL get hit, then what? (thats how you create a build for HC)

The worst thing on this "discussion" is, i really don´t understand that you are trying to accomplish by being an one-dimensional dickhead and try to make others look bad.

And the only way to get rid of your abuse in long term is to pm me ingame add me to a party, I fullclear a -60 less manareg mod without any manaflask, and afterwards you can try to talk shit, deal!?

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eragon1111 wrote:

I have no will to continue this conversation.