[2.2] 100% chaos ICE TRAPPER - UBER down (T15 Abyss Double Boss fight in 10 sec!!)

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Biggilus wrote:

Ok so I just respecced out of ZO/EB/MoM to get dual curse to try the Heretic's Veil setup. In order to do that I needed clarity back to get mana regen at 78 or so. Clarity, Enfeeble and TC left me with 120 mana or so and it costs 94 to throw a trap. That was mostly fine, not as fluid as EB/ZO but not having MoM or AA on I seriously noticed a difference in squishiness.

As it stands I'm gonna try one more map but otherwise respeccing back to EB/ZO/MoM so I can run AA too. Have about 280 ES(mana side) and 480 mana so it's actually very good at preventing big chunks of damage with MoM and I reckon well worth a single point investment.

So the other drawback is enfeeble only, but TC really wasn't a game changer and, for me, certainly not worth lettign go of MoM and AA.

Plus I get to put the Heretic's Veil on the market.....

You can run dual curse and have plenty of mana regen without EB/ZO but you'll need clarity and mana regen likely on both your amulet and ring:



The advantage of this is that you can still go crit for more damage, with 2 curses it's actually pretty safe, and the life regen from your golem makes running ground degen maps much less of a pain.

As a build that's constantly on the move to avoid danger, you're almost certainly on the move when hit so the only thing AA is doing is leaving a frost trail on the ground and chilling enemies when they hit you. Temporal chains though ensures that almost nothing melee ever hits you since they're slowed to the point (even leapers) that you can easily move out of the way.

MoM effectively adds some life to your life pool but unless you've got 30% of your life as free mana (very unlikely) you're not getting the full benefit of this node. I guess it's arguably worthwhile but now you're using mana pots and life pots after you get hit.

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rogergamer wrote:

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hankinsohl wrote:

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rogergamer wrote:

empower vs void manipulation?

Also why don't you take annihilation and heartseeker clusters?

Void Manipulation is better than Empower level 2. Not sure about Empower 3, 4 or (in a + gems chest) 5 - somewhere along the line Empower probably becomes better, but I haven't tested it.

Annihilation and Heartseeker are nice nodes but don't provide as much damage on their own as the nodes OP takes. The build is stressed for life and resists so it's hard to equip gear that benefits crit, and without that gear the nodes that OP takes provide either needed survivability or more damage.

Throatseeker also falls into this category.

At level 99/100 you'd take all of these crit nodes.

I see, I run a CI very heavy crit version of this build. 82% cc with 6 charges and 560+ multi.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYDAAW1Bx4I1A18DkgPxBB7ES8RUBGWFdcagRslIG4k_SoLKwosvy0fMhg1uTfUO3w9X0GWQixFfEcGSVFJsUuuTLNQMFFHUXRSU1ZjXfJiT2NDZKpnTmo2bAhtGW06bWxvd3BRcFJzbXZvew1-sH_Ghq6J04w2jb-P-pMnlSCVLpeVl5eX9JuGoHmhL6KjppmnK66zswO0DLQ4tUi3dbjKuZO-Or6KwfPDCckGytPQH9DQ0PXXz9hU2VvbGtte2-ffiuUZ51TndOik6NbpAuq662Pr9ewY7T_uFe-I7-vw1fD58YryHfLh-Tf79f_e?accountName=rogergamer&characterName=Solarsynthesis

it's about 35k with power charges at lvl 19, 38k with saboteur trap dmg buff. Feels a little lacking considering the price of some of my items, but maybe I just need to lvl up my gems.

Any suggestions are welcome!

Try to get a better ring. If you can get strength on your ring (as well as other useful stats), you can get a belt with an open suffix for Tora's trap damage mod.

I'd also check to see whether the chaos damage nodes leading up to Atrophy provide more DPS for you than some of the crit nodes you've taken.

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hankinsohl wrote:

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Biggilus wrote:

Ok so I just respecced out of ZO/EB/MoM to get dual curse to try the Heretic's Veil setup. In order to do that I needed clarity back to get mana regen at 78 or so. Clarity, Enfeeble and TC left me with 120 mana or so and it costs 94 to throw a trap. That was mostly fine, not as fluid as EB/ZO but not having MoM or AA on I seriously noticed a difference in squishiness.

As it stands I'm gonna try one more map but otherwise respeccing back to EB/ZO/MoM so I can run AA too. Have about 280 ES(mana side) and 480 mana so it's actually very good at preventing big chunks of damage with MoM and I reckon well worth a single point investment.

So the other drawback is enfeeble only, but TC really wasn't a game changer and, for me, certainly not worth lettign go of MoM and AA.

Plus I get to put the Heretic's Veil on the market.....

You can run dual curse and have plenty of mana regen without EB/ZO but you'll need clarity and mana regen likely on both your amulet and ring:

The advantage of this is that you can still go crit for more damage, with 2 curses it's actually pretty safe, and the life regen from your golem makes running ground degen maps much less of a pain.

As a build that's constantly on the move to avoid danger, you're almost certainly on the move when hit so the only thing AA is doing is leaving a frost trail on the ground and chilling enemies when they hit you. Temporal chains though ensures that almost nothing melee ever hits you since they're slowed to the point (even leapers) that you can easily move out of the way.

MoM effectively adds some life to your life pool but unless you've got 30% of your life as free mana (very unlikely) you're not getting the full benefit of this node. I guess it's arguably worthwhile but now you're using mana pots and life pots after you get hit.

I've never understood anyone's argument for more damage in this build. I didn't go the crit route purely for more survivability so took EO but I rarely find myself even throwing up OoS to get EO going. I think the only times I've thought about doing it is on Atziri runs and boss fights (even then a Vaal Lighting Trap and a salvo of mines takes any boss down).

I know I could have spent more time reoptimising my loadout after moving away from ZO/EB but I really didn't feel TC was neccessary. If I knew how to make videos I would because it sounds like my playstyle is vastly different to many others here (a lot of the time I wade into packs before the traps go off (double hence why I found TC not to my liking)) and I also find my golem draws a ton of agro (just on my mind, but I've never understood people arguing you need to get too close to mobs to drop OoS). I've run rippy maps too, admittedly no T15s yet but a small handful of T14s with vulnerability+some sort of elemental debuff. But knowing about the added danger I'm more flask happy with .

I know I'm in the minority who a) like OoS and EO, and b) run ZO/EB, but it suits me fine :)

And oooh my gems have only just started dinging 20, 16 GCPs saved up :D

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hankinsohl wrote:

Try to get a better ring. If you can get strength on your ring (as well as other useful stats), you can get a belt with an open suffix for Tora's trap damage mod.

I'd also check to see whether the chaos damage nodes leading up to Atrophy provide more DPS for you than some of the crit nodes you've taken.

cool, will look into those, also what's the consensus on "expeditious munitions" cluster? not worth it?

Omfg I cant belive what happened!!!

So I bough Carcass Jack, made this chest 6s pretty easily but then burned about 270 fuses to make this only 5L:


So I decided fuk this, bough another Carcass, make this again 6s and started saving up fusings till I get around 500. When I had 220 fusings I could not wait any longer and tried my luck.

Was able to spend only 5:



Dat joy guys, dat joy!!!!

I am atm lvl 54 i exp with tabula nad 2 x consuming what you sugest to drop from gems to put inc aoe ?

Guys how much HP did you had when killing uber atziri? I have now 19k Ice Trap dps with anger/clarity or 20,5k with anger/ice herald (no charges/flask) but only 3800 HP. Should this be enough if I avoid flameblasts etc or trash will wreck me?

In the video it seems you have 5 traps to trown, i only have 3 why ?

Sir, i just hit level 88 and I already full the tree with your build and i have 2 points more to spend what do you recommend ?

Can you check my profile and help me with upgrading ?



Thank you for nice and awesome build