SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Its not a right or wrong question. But any feature this polarizing is terrible for any game honestly.

I get that, but what's unfortunate is the people that have been the most vocal have also been the most ridiculous in how they've discussed the topic. It's actually done a disservice to their position, that an unbiased person reading all this will leave with the takeaway, "Well, all the people that dislike the lab clearly have some defect when it comes to the simple act of debating a topic with any level of intellectual honesty and rigor." Because I know THAT IS NOT the case. Hell, you're most likely one of them.

enjoy new lvl 78 lab, little crying hamsters ;)

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Zalhan2 wrote:

The Lab is a very polarizing issue. The fact so many people hate it and will probably eventually quit over it should tell the developers something. Content should not create a hostile divide that removes players. This clearly does because its a completely different game.

It's ok to have optional content as powerful as other content but err maybe it should be optional because so many people hate it?

this

Somewhere, near the future, in a lonely and dark Asylum. The rumor´s tell, the prisoner´s have to experience cruelsome experiments and the doctor´s see themself´s as god´s.

""cry´s and laught´s in the background""

Suddently, the nurse deperatly shout´s: We need more Retalin!! as the traped prisoneer keep´s on shouting: It´s Mandatory!!

""the Background seems to disagree with him, as there voices echoing: leave the game""

None the less, the doctor´s had to visit all the cell´s. In the last cell, you could see a hung men. Shocked by this view, the leaddoctor asked: How could that happen? He was so close to absolute power creep.

As the nurse´s clean the hung men´s room, they saw strange sign´s and writting´s underneath his bed. They couldn´t understand those writting´s, but one of it was crystal clear:

The Prophecy bring´s more Labyrinth

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Pwnzors87 wrote:

Somewhere, near the future, in a lonely and dark Asylum. The rumor´s tell, the prisoner´s have to experience cruelsome experiments and the doctor´s see themself´s as god´s.

""cry´s and laught´s in the background""

Suddently, the nurse deperatly shout´s: We need more Retalin!! as the traped prisoneer keep´s on shouting: It´s Mandatory!!

""the Background seems to disagree with him, as there voices echoing: leave the game""

None the less, the doctor´s had to visit all the cell´s. In the last cell, you could see a hung men. Shocked by this view, the leaddoctor asked: How could that happen? He was so close to absolute power creep.

As the nurse´s clean the hung men´s room, they saw strange sign´s and writting´s underneath his bed. They couldn´t understand those writting´s, but one of it was crystal clear:

The Prophecy bring´s more Labyrinth

^ nice

I hate the Lab too but if I want such nice Ascendancy Points its totaly worth it. Also if im bored from Maps I do a short Session in my Lab, trying to get a good Enchant on a good Unique Helmet.

LoL. My comment on their official youtube trailer has most likes xD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsE_lMdUTd0


I must say I was wrong, I was almost certain they will change the shitty lab, but how it seems they did not yet implement the fully rebalance chris talked about, where they will add new skill for normal mobs in higher dif, so the game is made more around you having ascendancy points. So that will probably happen in their next real expansion. So expect that their focus to move from lab and actually fix the crap they did with it to the thing they will do in their next expansion.

Don have problems that they implement end game lab, as it is extremely high level so they will not need to balance the game around you have those points, as its needed for the first 6 ones. And its only 2 points.

Everyone that like the lab and come to say BS, go play the game, lol

For me this content is so bad that if I need to play it I am not playing anymore. The ascendancy is really cool but I don't want to get stress playing something that I don't like to enjoin something in the future.


You all have the option to love the lab and us to hate it and don't play, we are only giving the feedback why we don't like it.

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HeliaXDemoN wrote:

Everyone that like the lab and come to say BS, go play the game, lol

For me this content is so bad that if I need to play it I am not playing anymore. The ascendancy is really cool but I don't want to get stress playing something that I don't like to enjoin something in the future.


You all have the option to love the lab and us to hate it and don't play, we are only giving the feedback why we don't like it.

Yeah we need to go play the game, that way this thread looks like its only people that dislike the lab and somehow makes it look like its more of an issue then it really is.


"stress", sorry you feel its that difficult, I can help you learn how to complete the challenge or really anyone that does the lab can.


As for giving feedback as to why you dislike it, that is perfectly fine, what isn't is trying to say no solution but a change to remove the AC from the lab is acceptable.




I said I was done with this thread, but new information was revealed about the lab, so I feel its necessary to ask another question.



If the change to ascendancy were made that you no longer had to do the lab for the 6 points, is that acceptable now, considering there is a possibility to get a total of 8 points, with the last 2 points FOR SURE having no other way to get besides completing the "uber" lab.

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The Lab is a very polarizing issue. The fact so many people hate it and will probably eventually quit over it should tell the developers something. Content should not create a hostile divide that removes players. This clearly does because its a completely different game.

People have quit over various changes made by the devs in the past, like people quit when 2.0 ruined the old GG aa\eb\mom combo and prolif. Just because people are upset about something and voice their concerns doesn't mean the game design must be changed to accommodate those people. Much like the amount of people that hate the lab in this thread, there are others on the opposite scale that enjoy the lab and feel like if it was changed to remove AC from the lab, that the game overall would be worst because of it, not necessarily because of the change, but the implementations it means, which is that the devs will cave on matters just to appease a crowd of players that sole purpose for the last 3 months have been to cry about the lab and say "ima quit", then fucking quit already no one gives 2 shits if you free loading fucks leave.

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Casual_Ascent wrote:

Didn't you say you were done with this thread? Go do lab runs or something. :)

Please dont scare him away. I like reading funny posts that have nothing to do with reality.