SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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h3h3fan wrote:
This is such a meme thread.

"Lab requires no skill at all"

Then why not just do it?

If your build can't do lab, it's gonna fail somewhere else in the game.

Lab is amazing, I fucking hate doing it, but that's the point.
You're not sure you can do it, but you come out as a winner.


"Gated content".... yes, just like shaper, red maps, specific uniques, everything else in the game.


How is it gated content when 2/3 of the people pay someone else to do it?
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Zalhan2 wrote:
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h3h3fan wrote:
This is such a meme thread.

"Lab requires no skill at all"

Then why not just do it?

If your build can't do lab, it's gonna fail somewhere else in the game.

Lab is amazing, I fucking hate doing it, but that's the point.
You're not sure you can do it, but you come out as a winner.


"Gated content".... yes, just like shaper, red maps, specific uniques, everything else in the game.


How is it gated content when 2/3 of the people pay someone else to do it?


You mean like shaper, red 8mod maps, paying for uniques? everything else?


It's a skillgate, or "willing to play the game" gate
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Bowman8763 wrote:
Spoiler
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EnjoyTheJourney wrote:
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Xavathos wrote:
Just let this thread die already, poor horse.
I agree with you that complaining about all the dislike / hate / derision that keeps being directed at lab is quite the dead horse by now.

PS: Lab still isn't a fun part of the game for a lot of players and lore for lab doesn't make sense. This thread does a great job of pointing out a variety of options for making the game better.


But it's not dead. It's still a very big issue in the game for a lot of people.

Most trap mechanics are so broken that people make builds just to bypass them. How crazy is that? For something most players won't go back and do again until the next league starts.

I think most people would be okay with the lab if you could walk in, fight Izzy, get your points and leave. Then, let those who want to run the remainder of the Lab for keys and enchants or maybe some powerful bonus to go for it.

It would probably be an embarrassment to GGG to see just exactly how many people would not finish the run for keys and enchants, which is why it will never happen.

That said, let the trolls attack.
You might be right about the embarrassment angle.

GGG took the worst associations of the word "trial" and turned trials a boring set of repetitive platform mini-game "challenges" before doing each form of lab and the worst association for the phrase "Ya gotta earn it" and made lab feel like work.

That must not be easy to swallow.
Now that prestige classes will finally leave lab in 4.0, will GGG get it right this time or will they find new ways to repeat old mistakes?
I support OP's opinion 100%.

Ascendacies should be awarded while leveling.
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h3h3fan wrote:
This is such a meme thread.
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This is such meme arguments of lab lovers
"Lab is easy, git gud"
"Lab is only challengig part of PoE"
No contradiction at all
/s
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Bowman8763 wrote:
It would probably be an embarrassment to GGG to see just exactly how many people would not finish the run for keys and enchants, which is why it will never happen.

Exactly
"War's over, soldier. You just don't know it yet. Everybody lost."
Last edited by Nishrek#6401 on Feb 27, 2018, 8:02:07 AM
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manituan wrote:
I support OP's opinion 100%.

Ascendacies should be awarded while leveling.


The main advantage of that option is ease of implementation. I would like that option much more than the current method but would personally like some of the other other options listed in the OP a bit more.

I have added your name to the list of people that support a fix for this and similar sentiments voiced in the forum, now at 980 account names long. Over 370 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 970 posters in support
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
Why is this thread still alive anyway? No way at this point is GGG going to cave to this demand. Nor should they. Why should someone get points for content they refuse to do or can't do for whatever reason?

Equivalent to me demanding they give away free uniques because I played so many hours in a league. Not going to happen. Should NOT happen.

Where would the thrill be if they just gave you stuff? Free points? Free currency? Where would it end?

Love the lab, hate it, or all points in between (that would be me) it is here to stay.
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kolyaboo wrote:
Why is this thread still alive anyway? No way at this point is GGG going to cave to this demand. Nor should they. Why should someone get points for content they refuse to do or can't do for whatever reason?

Equivalent to me demanding they give away free uniques because I played so many hours in a league. Not going to happen. Should NOT happen.

Where would the thrill be if they just gave you stuff? Free points? Free currency? Where would it end?

Love the lab, hate it, or all points in between (that would be me) it is here to stay.


My favorite forum game is how long till someone necros this again. Though this guy necroed a 2 week old thread just to make fun of people, which is a new one.
This is an important thread. Keep it alive guys!

Did you already had the point that it maybe a good idea to shift one ascendency point to kill shaper. Right now there is not really something like a quest reward for killing him.
What do you mean no reward for shaper? Never seen the sword? The flask?
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