SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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goetzjam wrote:

Its not a crazy declaration its clear by statements made by Chris on the podcast that they aren't going to move the ascendancy points outside of the lab, if you want to continue to be a delusional person, by all means do, but that won't change the outcome in the slightest.

Like a person or company cannot change their mind(s) ever, after making a statement. Are you serious here? If the majority of players hate somehthing, GGG can obviously make a correction, GGG is not forced to follow one statement for all eternity. Wow.

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Khoranth wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

Its not a crazy declaration its clear by statements made by Chris on the podcast that they aren't going to move the ascendancy points outside of the lab, if you want to continue to be a delusional person, by all means do, but that won't change the outcome in the slightest.

Like a person or company cannot change their mind(s) ever, after making a statement. Are you serious here? If the majority of players hate somehthing, GGG can obviously make a correction, GGG is not forced to follow one statement for all eternity. Wow.

I don't know how much more clear I need to be, the majority doesn't dictate shit for this game.


You also have no way to truly gauge majority or not, technically neither does GGG unless they add a poll in game that you are required to answer before you can play.


GGG makes the game and we play it, we don't all have to agree that everything they do is great (even I dont) but we have to agree that all you can do is say your piece and be done with it. Instead OP is making this his personal quest to bump this thread constantly.


If they just indicated that they aren't going to change it, then they aren't going to change it for a while. Its best to revisit this topic after more people try out the lab and learn how to do it, instead of just supporting this pointless "we want it for free shit" which is literally every suggestion that removes it from the lab, there isn't a single fucking one that is interesting nor equally as challenging as being in the lab.



This topic should have been locked by support long ago, OP has gotten himself put on probation once from this post and multiple GGG edits to correct his blatant disregard for any respect of anyone that disagrees with him.


As for the podcast, watch it yourself, I'm not in a position to sit thru the whole podcast and document it word for word to prove you "wrong". It has many relevant responses in regards to the lab you should watch it anyway, so you are informed on the latest stance. It might also help to check reddit, but I don't recall anything specifically being that relevant, at least not compared to the podcast.

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goetzjam wrote:

As for the podcast, watch it yourself, I'm not in a position to sit thru the whole podcast and document it word for word to prove you "wrong". It has many relevant responses in regards to the lab you should watch it anyway, so you are informed on the latest stance. It might also help to check reddit, but I don't recall anything specifically being that relevant, at least not compared to the podcast.

Exactly what i thought your answer would be, thanks for the totally nonsensical and vague claim you did before and now. Take care

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goetzjam wrote:

You also have no way to truly gauge majority or not, technically neither does GGG unless they add a poll in game that you are required to answer before you can play.

hence my use of the word if. I apologize if English is your second language and I sound condescending, but you should learn how the word if can be used before responding to me again.

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Khoranth wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

You also have no way to truly gauge majority or not, technically neither does GGG unless they add a poll in game that you are required to answer before you can play.

hence my use of the word if. I apologize if English is your second language and I sound condescending, but you should learn how the word if can be used before responding to me again.

You keep saying IF as IF it means anything.


Its pointless to use what if's especially because you are trying to say as IF the majority of people do want the rewards moved from the lab has any effect on the situation at hand, it simply doesn't. GGG doesn't make decisions based on what the majority of players want, if they did that this game would literally be shit.


For example go look at D3, they now act on what the majority of players want there.



IF DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER DUDE.

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goetzjam wrote:

You keep saying IF as IF it means anything.


Its pointless to use what if's especially because you are trying to say as IF the majority of people do want the rewards moved from the lab has any effect on the situation at hand, it simply doesn't. GGG doesn't make decisions based on what the majority of players want, if they did that this game would literally be shit.


For example go look at D3, they now act on what the majority of players want there.



IF DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER DUDE.

You are responding to my posts as if i did not use the word if. It changes the meaning of what I have said depending on whether or not I use the word if or not.

So yes, it matters.

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Khoranth wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

You keep saying IF as IF it means anything.


Its pointless to use what if's especially because you are trying to say as IF the majority of people do want the rewards moved from the lab has any effect on the situation at hand, it simply doesn't. GGG doesn't make decisions based on what the majority of players want, if they did that this game would literally be shit.


For example go look at D3, they now act on what the majority of players want there.



IF DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER DUDE.

You are responding to my posts as if i did not use the word if. It changes the meaning of what I have said depending on whether or not I use the word if or not.

So yes, it matters.

Ok

But why present a point that is contingent on something you can't back?

I personally look forward to running the lab once I get to act 3 norm/cruel and merci. My ego will not allow carries and I do it at the required level i.e normal lab lvl 35 maximum. We are all different. This is how I get enjoyment out of the game i.e doing stuff at the required level so there is a challenge.

With that out of the way I can honestly say gaining ascendancies at 40/60/80 or killing malachai in each difficulty is not a bad idea. They would then have to make labyrinth worth my time though, because frankly thats my only reason for going there, seeing as I have no say in what 1/359 enchants I get.