SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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kompaniet wrote:

alright. i saw today in the developer answers that no changes are planned for lab. maybe after 3.0.0. we will have to wait and see.

i don't mind the lab so much anymore but i also wouldn't mind seeing the über trials gone for good.

Remove the uber trials and replace them with what?


Part of the reason why they are longer is for the key you get at the end of it. It also gives you enough time to learn the various mechanics in the more difficult style environment so you are better suited to do the lab.

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goetzjam wrote:

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kompaniet wrote:

alright. i saw today in the developer answers that no changes are planned for lab. maybe after 3.0.0. we will have to wait and see.

i don't mind the lab so much anymore but i also wouldn't mind seeing the über trials gone for good.

Remove the uber trials and replace them with what?


Part of the reason why they are longer is for the key you get at the end of it. It also gives you enough time to learn the various mechanics in the more difficult style environment so you are better suited to do the lab.

They could make doing the previous version of lab the thing that gives you access to the next one. Trials could exist as they do now in order to generate keys to let you open the end game lab.

Edit: Please don't put me on that lab protest list thing.

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DurianMcgregor wrote:

They could make doing the previous version of lab the thing that gives you access to the next one. Trials could exist as they do now in order to generate keys to let you open the end game lab.

Edit: Please don't put me on that lab protest list thing.

He will because you said something derogatory about the lab.


So the uber trials wouldn't be necessary to gain access to the lab, but would be to get access to the keys?

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DurianMcgregor wrote:

Edit: Please don't put me on that lab protest list thing.

whole list is down to one stroke of text:
"IM INCOMPETENT NOOB PLAYING SHIT BUILD AT POTATO PS WITH 36k DIALUP FROM VANUATU"
it's boring

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DurianMcgregor wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

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kompaniet wrote:

alright. i saw today in the developer answers that no changes are planned for lab. maybe after 3.0.0. we will have to wait and see.

i don't mind the lab so much anymore but i also wouldn't mind seeing the über trials gone for good.

Remove the uber trials and replace them with what?


Part of the reason why they are longer is for the key you get at the end of it. It also gives you enough time to learn the various mechanics in the more difficult style environment so you are better suited to do the lab.

They could make doing the previous version of lab the thing that gives you access to the next one. Trials could exist as they do now in order to generate keys to let you open the end game lab.

Edit: Please don't put me on that lab protest list thing.

Contrary to the lying troll's statement, you are not on the list. If anyone is ever placed on the list and wants to be removed then a simple PM would get one's name removed immediately. This has never happened that I recall but the option is mentioned in the thread OP of Over 300 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 740 posters in support

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goetzjam wrote:

So the uber trials wouldn't be necessary to gain access to the lab, but would be to get access to the keys?

That actually might be interesting, it would probably create a big key shortage so they would be more expensive and farming them for lab runners would become a thing.

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raics wrote:

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goetzjam wrote:

So the uber trials wouldn't be necessary to gain access to the lab, but would be to get access to the keys?

That actually might be interesting, it would probably create a big key shortage so they would be more expensive and farming them for lab runners would become a thing.

It also puts less pressure on getting access to it, people still get access to the uber lab quite quickly and the rewards are pretty high. If you no longer have to do all of the trials, some builds could go into the uber lab once they get their first key, which IMO is dangerous.

The uber lab has a lot of rewards behind it and part of what keeps it somewhat balanced is that its more difficult to get access to it.


Also the trials currently are pretty common every 7 maps or so you get one, probably a bit more common, but not sure exactly the rate in which they spawn.

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mezmery wrote:

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DurianMcgregor wrote:

Edit: Please don't put me on that lab protest list thing.

whole list is down to one stroke of text:
"IM INCOMPETENT NOOB PLAYING SHIT BUILD AT POTATO PS WITH 36k DIALUP FROM VANUATU"
it's boring

Pretty much this.

Now I'm all in favour of people speaking their minds and disliking things, but this thread... this is something else entirely and I absolutely cannot believe it's still allowed to continue.

I also just simply don't get the lab haters posting here.

1. It WILL NOT be changed, that's already been said many times by developers.
2. If you hate lab so much, don't run it. Pay someone for your ascendancy points, never look at it again.
3. Is posting salty bitterness here all day really better than playing the game? If so, maybe you should move on instead and do something with your life? Fill it with some positivity? You know, read a book, see a movie, hang out with friends, do some sports, play another game you ACTUALLY like? Nobody is keeping you here........ trust me.

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Marinxar wrote:

I love how you self righteous fucks always have a opinion on other people's problems, but always from the perspective of your perfect pedestal. If you never had any issues in lab what so ever, then what are you doing in a conversation where tons of people from all over the world who DO have issues, are stating them and discussing ideas on how to overcome them? You have ZERO experience with this problem, since you yourself just said, you never had that issue. So what is your purpose here, other than trying to be a smartass troll ?

I have had .... like basically everyone playing the lab since it's beginning.
But GGG fixed most of those quite some time ago.

And see ? Once your "but you don't know what it is to play on 30ms ping !!" 'argument' is reduced to nothing, all you can resort is that kinda of non argument "you don't know it so stfu I know better !" ....

I already know at this point that it's futile to ask you whether you have problems outside of the lab since you will have a very biased answer, imho.