SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Your posts citing most people love the lab or even like it, have as much proof or validity as any alternative facts. I could cite steam evidence to the contrary and post equally meaningless bullshit. But what news lately has shown us is unsubstantiated opinions more likely than not come out of someones ass.

then do so. otherwise, it's just whine whine whine. That is all this thread has been since it's inception. a place for people who missed a jump, or tried to run through a trap sequence and failed to come and whine about it.

keep your crusade, and ill keep selling enchants for ripoff prices.

PS for me traps dont exist. how do you even find them a problem? you outregen them to zero damage with only 1.5k regen even without armor, charges, golems, fortify, flasks and so on. izaro maybe somewhat tricky depending on damage buffs, still completely safe.

Got a story from my turbulent childhood, it was a long time ago and I was just a wee twerp so some of it was lost and some distorted by time and retelling, still, it's somewhat related and should be interesting.

It was back in preschool, at those times you only eat, shit, sleep and play and none of those is normally a major issue until it becomes one. So, one day, as a part of the movement for healthy child diet the school authorities introduced spinach with every meal because it's supposedly healthy, some believed it, and some haven't.
Healthy or not, it goes without saying that spinach isn't exactly the favorite food for most of the little dropbears at that age so it didn't go quietly. Some ate it and liked it, some ate it and didn't really care as long as they could get back to playing right away, some ate it while bawling their eyes out and some were so adamant about not eating it they finally convinced their parents to transfer them to another establishment, supposedly spinach-free.
You'd normally call the case closed at that point, but no, because a certain number of the kids who left kept coming back at mealtime to howl about spinach again, hand in hand with the likeminded handful that stayed, demanding its removal so they can come back to their favorite kindergarten. Ultimately, the incessant howling at lunchtime became so annoying that some of the other kids started telling them to stop because the only thing they're accomplishing by it is spoiling the others' appetite, the spinach certainly isn't going away. And so the playground trench warfare started.

There, hope you enjoyed it. Forgive my failing memory, but I can't really remember how exactly it all ended up, seem to vaguely recall everyone getting a bit of candy to go with the spinach and I wouldn't exactly call that a happy ending. I should probably sell the rights on this to Parker and Stone, it might make a good South Park episode starring Eric Cartman - the kid who came back.

It's more like going to your favorite steak house for years. It could use some variety like steak sauce and extra side dishes, like a baked potato instead of steak fries. This will complete your normal steak dinner.

They announce they're bringing these great additions to the menu... with a catch.

They add lobster to the menu. They really want everyone to try the lobster, so they say:
If you want steak sauce or optional side dishes, you have to eat the lobster first. In fact, you get all that new stuff for free if you finish the lobster.

Some people love lobster, and the extras.

Some people hate lobster (or seafood), or just don't think it fits the meal, while they would enjoy both on separately.

Some just want their steak and are willing to buy another steak instead of lobster for the same cost, for the same new sides and stuff.

But no, you MUST buy our LOBSTER to complete your steak dinner.

(And if you leave the table at any time while eating your lobster, you have to start over with a new lobster.)

Aaaaannd one more silly and completely irrelevant analogy, GG.

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Zaludoz wrote:

(And if you leave the table at any time while eating your lobster, you have to start over with a new lobster.)

Damn, I'd be all over that place :)
Hell, even if I didn't like lobster, pardon my third world habits but free grub is free grub.

Anyway, glad you liked the story, I know it's a bit ridiculous and almost totally irrelevant but the thread can certainly use some lighter notes now and then. And I quite like them, in some other time I'd probably be a traveling storyteller.

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Xtorma wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Your posts citing most people love the lab or even like it, have as much proof or validity as any alternative facts. I could cite steam evidence to the contrary and post equally meaningless bullshit. But what news lately has shown us is unsubstantiated opinions more likely than not come out of someones ass.

then do so. otherwise, it's just whine whine whine. That is all this thread has been since it's inception. a place for people who missed a jump, or tried to run through a trap sequence and failed to come and whine about it.

All is see above is whine whine. I don't like your intelligent opinion explaining why I don't find the game fun, whine whine whine above. I on the other hand, am saying play another game if you don't like this one, since now its kind of meh for ME.

But this is a troll who can't be bothered to read the whole thread, just whine whine whine.

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Zalhan2 wrote:

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Xtorma wrote:

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Zalhan2 wrote:

Your posts citing most people love the lab or even like it, have as much proof or validity as any alternative facts. I could cite steam evidence to the contrary and post equally meaningless bullshit. But what news lately has shown us is unsubstantiated opinions more likely than not come out of someones ass.

then do so. otherwise, it's just whine whine whine. That is all this thread has been since it's inception. a place for people who missed a jump, or tried to run through a trap sequence and failed to come and whine about it.

All is see above is whine whine. I don't like your intelligent opinion explaining why I don't find the game fun, whine whine whine above. I on the other hand, am saying play another game if you don't like this one, since now its kind of meh for ME.

But this is a troll who can't be bothered to read the whole thread, just whine whine whine.

so, did you whine about bloodmagic maps?
do you whine about reflect that tears apart most endgame builds?
or maybe you whine about the fact shaper is undoable with less than 500k dps?
or maybe you whine about atziri immune to status aliments, so you struggle to do even ordinary one as some characters?
or maybe you whine about the pain of levelling future-ci-now-2k hp-hybrid builds?

no, you whine about easy content with awesome rewards. there are ton of builds that completely ignore traps if you want to grab that reward. and oneshot izaro too, who is the most telegraphed boss in the game.