SET FREE THE ASCENDANCY POINTS (or rework the lab) [New ascension methods/lab rework ideas]

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j33bus wrote:
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Docbp87 wrote:
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The_Reporter wrote:
After a long break from the forum, I came back to check if the rumors are true. Is there an alternative to lab and trials areas in the works? A little bird keeps telling me!


You took a long break from the forum? When was that? Are you hallucinating?


Comparatively long, like an hour compared to the normal few minutes.


You guys seem really mad.
Love the game. Loathe the lab.

The idea that the lab is "optional endgame" baffles me when the ascendancy points are behind it.

The regular trials make me feel like I am playing Zelda while the uber trials.... Maybe we should put every level-up skill-point behind RNG gates just for fun.. Level up twice with one mob pack and then not again for 1000 maps.. Played hundreds of maps last league to still come one trial short of uber-lab (which I didn't want to actually play, but if it was available to me I would have to get the points and the challenge).

I will frequently play an entire act at a time clearing all of the area/side areas, but if I had to clear the whole act and kill the boss without ever leaving/dying I would frankly never play this game (and it is my favorite game). I get that it is partially mental/psychological on my part, but for a game with so much customization/choice it just feels...wrong.

At least let me save my progress... I feel compelled to clear every area/mob/chest/rock as I play this game, but when I do have to play lab for ascendancy I rush through start to finish and hate how long it took.

Set them free or rework.
Last edited by Soviet_Russia#4258 on Mar 7, 2017, 3:54:31 PM
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Soviet_Russia wrote:
Love the game. Loathe the lab.

The idea that the lab is "optional endgame" baffles me when the ascendancy points are behind it.

The regular trials make me feel like I am playing Zelda while the uber trials.... Maybe we should put every level-up skill-point behind RNG gates just for fun.. Level up twice with one mob pack and then not again for 1000 maps.. Played hundreds of maps last league to still come one trial short of uber-lab (which I didn't want to actually play, but if it was available to me I would have to get the points and the challenge).

I will frequently play an entire act at a time clearing all of the area/side areas, but if I had to clear the whole act and kill the boss without ever leaving/dying I would frankly never play this game (and it is my favorite game). I get that it is partially mental/psychological on my part, but for a game with so much customization/choice it just feels...wrong.

At least let me save my progress... I feel compelled to clear every area/mob/chest/rock as I play this game, but when I do have to play lab for ascendancy I rush through start to finish and hate how long it took.

Set them free or rework.


Thank you for sharing your opinion on the H&H labyrinth (horrible and hated). Number 715 on the list. Over 290 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 710 posters in support
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
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Soviet_Russia wrote:
Love the game. Loathe the lab.

The idea that the lab is "optional endgame" baffles me when the ascendancy points are behind it.

The regular trials make me feel like I am playing Zelda while the uber trials.... Maybe we should put every level-up skill-point behind RNG gates just for fun.. Level up twice with one mob pack and then not again for 1000 maps.. Played hundreds of maps last league to still come one trial short of uber-lab (which I didn't want to actually play, but if it was available to me I would have to get the points and the challenge).

I will frequently play an entire act at a time clearing all of the area/side areas, but if I had to clear the whole act and kill the boss without ever leaving/dying I would frankly never play this game (and it is my favorite game). I get that it is partially mental/psychological on my part, but for a game with so much customization/choice it just feels...wrong.

At least let me save my progress... I feel compelled to clear every area/mob/chest/rock as I play this game, but when I do have to play lab for ascendancy I rush through start to finish and hate how long it took.

Set them free or rework.


Not gunna happen anytime soon. Most people are ok with the lab, and the devs have already stated that they don't care if some people don't like it. On the plus side for the crusaders, though, they did mention that they might make the lower level iterations shorter.
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Xtorma wrote:
On the plus side for the crusaders, though, they did mention that they might make the lower level iterations shorter.



If you think that this change addresses even in the slightest our issue with this content you still havent understood shit about the goal of this thread and why we want a change. (and neither has GGG)

@Reporter do you have any insight (regarding the bird) or just trolling/bumping?
Inundated with cockroaches, I am

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1609216 - labyrinth rework ideas/suggestions
Last edited by Regulator#4587 on Mar 7, 2017, 9:23:01 PM
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Regulator wrote:
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Xtorma wrote:
On the plus side for the crusaders, though, they did mention that they might make the lower level iterations shorter.



If you think that this change addresses even in the slightest our issue with this content you still havent understood shit about the goal of this thread and why we want a change. (and neither has GGG)

@Reporter do you have any insight (regarding the bird) or just trolling/bumping?


don't care whether or not your crusade ever makes even 1 foot of progress. I am just here spreading the truth. I see you still play, and still run the lab...good for you :D.
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Regulator wrote:
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Xtorma wrote:
On the plus side for the crusaders, though, they did mention that they might make the lower level iterations shorter.



If you think that this change addresses even in the slightest our issue with this content you still havent understood shit about the goal of this thread and why we want a change. (and neither has GGG)

As usual, lots of things to "fix" ....

You
are not representative in anyway for any portion of the playerbase, therefore your "our" or "we" is meaningless, it's arrogant on top of being futile.
Get real.
And yes, it will likely address part of the problem for many player (I'm sure you are aware of what I am refering to but since you are kinda blind here : the fact that running multiple times the lab is at least somewhat of a chore for many), you like it or not.

SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Last edited by Fruz#6137 on Mar 8, 2017, 1:10:56 AM
People also run into cactus and do other dumb shit. Dosen't t make it a good idea
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Fruz wrote:
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Regulator wrote:
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Xtorma wrote:
On the plus side for the crusaders, though, they did mention that they might make the lower level iterations shorter.



If you think that this change addresses even in the slightest our issue with this content you still havent understood shit about the goal of this thread and why we want a change. (and neither has GGG)

As usual, lots of things to "fix" ....

You
are not representative in anyway for any portion of the playerbase, therefore your "our" or "we" is meaningless, it's arrogant on top of being futile.
Get real.
And yes, it will likely address part of the problem for many player (I'm sure you are aware of what I am refering to but since you are kinda blind here : the fact that running multiple times the lab is at least somewhat of a chore for many), you like it or not.



Fruz, you have overstated your argument. Making it untrue. You've seen plenty of posts in this very thread that make your statement untrue.
Over 430 threads discussing labyrinth problems with over 1040 posters in support (thread # 1702621) Thank you all! GGG will implement a different method for ascension in PoE2. Retired!
Not in the slightest.

Agreeing on some point with somebody does not mean agreeing to be represented by that individual.
And he has been using that toxic and missplaced "our" ( and the others obviously ) from the start.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.

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