Path of Exile 2.2.0: Ascendancy Patch Notes

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MGTopgun wrote:

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Kastmar wrote:

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MGTopgun wrote:

Thanks for nerfing my build again.

Pfff...

You are not alone. They killed bino so my build is dead also.

that was my build. Im literally in middle of, do i play this ? or i just dont bother with poe anymore.

Probably will wait to see some OP builds, cant bother atm to think again xD

Nah. Don't play bino anymore. It's waste of points. Just wait what will come out in 2-3 weeks. Don't spend points for build which will not work anymore.

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hideouts wrote:

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"The Critical Strike Support Gem now grants additional critical strike chance in addition to increased critical strike chance"

I wonder if this is some "Cats on crit" kinda thing, you know what I'm saying?

No talisman for Standart?

Sweet

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hideouts wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

no, because they wanted to nerf the effectiveness of crit multi, thats the point.

its a nerf to crit multi, the vast majority of items including all rare items will not get 50% increase if divined, they are simply nerfed.

i addressed this as well! its their choice which items to nerf and i will accept that decision. but if they literally said that some uniques can be divined, it means those uniques arent meant to be nerfed! for example abyssus, its on what i call the "white list"

and since its not meant to be nerfed, its gay as shit to make me get a new one (cause one does not simply divine an abyssus), they should instead change the crit multi themselves, because they fucked up an item that they explicitly said isnt meant to be fucked up

I do appreciate that. Patches costing me in game wealth drives me nuts, seriously, Ive emailed GGG about this before. They change trees that force bandit respecs to properly min/max and then I have to pay 20 regrets a pop on a server where they are 12 per ex at the time. Patch day lands and it literally costs me 8+ exalts of regrets because I have so many characters needing bandit switches etc. On those days I would have been a very happy man if I had got away with a divine or 2. I am sympathetic honestly.


But another way of looking at it, cause perspective is always good, how long you been playing mate? You got 28 challenges, lvl93 in talisman, that says to me your a fairly GG player whos been around the block. You ever owned a legacy unique before? Ever owned one that then went legacy? You got a Taste of Hate lying around somewhere? Last time I checked prices on a ToH they were 4 exalts each, theyre going legacy now, atm on standard theyre 13ex a pop after that news. 4 months from now theyll probably be 20ex. If you own a single Taste Of Hate Flask, and that is the only unique you have ever had which has gone legacy, then you just earned about 20 divines worth of profit on your items thanks to this legacy system and the way it plays out.

I have a toh, vinktars, I had 4 rumis before they went legacy, legacy malis, aegis, saffells, rainbowsrtrides, lightning coils, cloak of defiance (lel)... so they didnt all turn out so well lol, but on the whole Ive made so much more bank from legacy items than I have lost. You think I dont own an abyssus etc? Crit multi rare jewels, I got all these things man. But any long term player who has a lot of items on hand gains way more than they lose from this situation. Its not like you make a killing on legacy switchover unless you are a big time flipper and risk taker, but in terms of amounts like a divine or 2 youll be well in profit if you play this game for a decent amount of time.






Im still pissed about those bandit specs tho, GGG owe me stacks of regrets, literally stacks of them. Never forget bros, a grudge is for life not just christmas, which funny enough was the exact time of year they stole them from me, the dirty Scrooges, at christmas of all times.

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hideouts wrote:

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hmcg020 wrote:

I'm seriously confused about the changes to crit and the item's that have affixes related to it.

Do I manually need to divine my items, or will that make them worse?

Crit melee is now 33% less effective?

Does this mean Melee CI builds now do 33% less damage?

Meta builds will spawn from this so perhaps I should take a week off after patch and come back when people have made sense of how to proceed from this point.

basically it comes on to this: you know how before crit multi was 150% base? well that means that any crit multi you find on an item, gets multiplied by 1.5. so for example finding a +100% crit multi item would actually change your crit multi from 150% to 300%

so when you add 50% to something (or multiply by 1.5), it becomes 3/2 of what it used to be. to get it back to 100%, you need to multiply by 2/3 (or two thirds). so one third of the value is lost and thats what they said, and i tried to explain now

although i realize the explanation was the shittiest one ive ever seen, so someone else maybe help? :(

pulling a rough guestimate out of my nose Im fingering it will be about a 10-20% overall damage nerf for crit builds depending on how much multiplier they got from the tree and how much came from items, overall crit chance etc.

Ascendancy classes often seem to revolve around a free gem, be it fortify, pierce, chain, more damage, elemental pen, additional curse, additional aura, critical strikes, most builds going for a damage ascendancy are getting something thats going to give the damage output of a free support/curse/aura etc. A gem is about 30-40% more damage essentially. You get ele pen on crit, drop your cold pen gem, stick in crit multiplier or controlled destruction. You get perm fortify, so you take out fortify gem and use added fire or conc effect. Along with the boot/glove/hat enchants you will end up with more dps going out after this patch on a dps focused spec for sure. Its just that non crit builds will see a bigger relative increase than crit builds, everyones taking 3 steps forward then crit is taking 1 step back, given that its already starting about 3 steps ahead its fine, needed even.


I would have gone further but the more I think about it the more Im coming around to the idea that they went just far enough. I do mostly play savage crit builds and we dont want them to get gimped to the point where their ascendancy only brings them back to par. Right now our ascendancy buffs us significantly beyond these nerfs, we should still be excited imo.

Is this shit even for real?

GGG updates the game with a new league and introduces a lot of new gameplay features and what do we see? A flood of drama and crying.

IT is very obvious that most of you haven’t experienced many hardships in real life.

GGG, please, don't let the whine get to you. You did an awesome job. There's just some people who can't accept change. You're making one of the best games out there! :)

Whining about losing OP builds .. Seriously, what do ppl think when they play an absolutely OP build that requires no brain to play anymore? That the liferegen got nerfed - with > 10k regen numbers, you didnt expect that? That was overdue. Kinda ironic that the critmulti change kills any legacy bino if you want it at max effect.

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MGTopgun wrote:

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Kastmar wrote:

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MGTopgun wrote:

Thanks for nerfing my build again.

Pfff...

You are not alone. They killed bino so my build is dead also.

that was my build. Im literally in middle of, do i play this ? or i just dont bother with poe anymore.

Probably will wait to see some OP builds, cant bother atm to think again xD

well, are we sure the existing daggers are not going to be legacy?

Yay!

All these nerfs don't effect me at all!
I never played FOTW, i never have had a char with more than 20K DPS.
I never abused broken mechanics.

To me, this is just a great expansion!

I love that trading is done on premium tabs, could you imagine the spammage and abuse on standard tabs?!
I wish they would make it so that access to anything other than global1 and trade1 requires a mtx.

This is going to be great, especially for a completely casual noob player like myself.

See you all in the Labyrinth