First Wave of Trade Improvements

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SuicideSpree3 wrote:

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WhiteMagick wrote:

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SuicideSpree3 wrote:

If anyone can make even top 100 on ladder without extra stash tabs or assistance from people who do have them, I will retract this.

Otherwise in no meaningful sense it possible to win without paying GGG money.

If a player that gets to top 5 in a league gets given a fresh account to play with, with only their default 5 stash tabs, they will be able to get top 5. The thing is, because they play so much and play the game so often, they have wanted to support GGG. It is fun hoarding items, but I have come to realize it actually makes you slower in leveling, but I am not competitive - so I enjoy collecting some gear for the characters I might one day want to play. On the other hand I can just buy the gear I need if I wanted to keep using the default stash tabs.

If the stash tabs made a difference to clearing speed (like a unique that adds 1-2 phys damage per stash tab you own) then it will be pay to win, but until then it is :
1. Free to play and enjoy
2. Free to pay if you enjoy
If you don't feel like supporting GGG and qq because some people did get some extra stash tabs, and qq because others support gg and you don't ever want to, then you are also free to leave since you are clearly not having a good time with the game. And saying yu are supporting the game financially without any supporter logo's next to your name is possible but suspicious especially with your qq

Stop strawmanning.

I've EXPLICITLY stated that I will continue to play and that I will pay for this.

I'm saying this is unethical, not to that I won't pay up.

Secondly, once you point to me a player actually being anywhere in the top 100 without paid for stuff, I'll admit it's not PTW. Till then I stand by my point and disagree with your assertion.

I think this calls for a challenge for a top tier player to only use 5 stash tabs to get first ten to 100. I have seen top tier players play before, and they hardly ever visit their stash tabs(most of the time they farming xp), but it would be nice for one of them to prove to people like you that they choose to support since they love the game and spend so much time on it, they don't support to get advantage, but then again I am thinking why waste time on people with this attitude?
(You are a supporter - Any proof of that statement?)

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24california wrote:

Well do you think it fits with the story and rpg aspect of path of exile? No. Characters meet each other up to do trades. It brings a greater aspect to hideouts, meeting other players and also to bargain!

Psh...Nobody takes anyone seriously when they f*ckity f*ck f*ck every sentence. :)

Gl trading while you're in Labyrinth (can't leave because you need to restart) or in Alluring Abyss/High tier map (if you invite someone to your hideout he can just steal your map and you can't even name him on forums because of "no name & shame" policy).
I do not care if it's automated or not, but system where I can give someone item from my stash without leaving instance/giving him access to my h/o is 100x times better. It doesn't have to be automated for that.
If you want to trade now you're forced to stay in your h/o doing nothing whole time instead of playing the game or using alt account on 2nd screen for trading (which also makes you play worse, because you have to pay attention to both screens or constantly alt-tab).

YEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!! YES YES YES YES!!!!!:)

Thank you so much!!!:)
I've been waiting for years for some improvements on trade as I am one who doesnt use who doesnt use 3rd party software such as Acquisition or Procurement to have/create/maintain a shop and it has become reaaaaaally tedious/boring to do so manually...

THANK YOU THANK YOU so much for these improvements!!!!:)

Awesome! Great job! Thanks GGG! :)

Why Premium, instead adding at least 2 more stash bounded to selling stuff, if people wants more they will buy premium stash tabs.

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WhiteMagick wrote:

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SuicideSpree3 wrote:

If anyone can make even top 100 on ladder without extra stash tabs or assistance from people who do have them, I will retract this.

Otherwise in no meaningful sense it possible to win without paying GGG money.

If a player that gets to top 5 in a league gets given a fresh account to play with, with only their default 5 stash tabs, they will be able to get top 5. The thing is, because they play so much and play the game so often, they have wanted to support GGG. It is fun hoarding items, but I have come to realize it actually makes you slower in leveling, but I am not competitive - so I enjoy collecting some gear for the characters I might one day want to play. On the other hand I can just buy the gear I need if I wanted to keep using the default stash tabs.

If the stash tabs made a difference to clearing speed (like a unique that adds 1-2 phys damage per stash tab you own) then it will be pay to win, but until then it is :
1. Free to play and enjoy
2. Free to pay if you enjoy
If you don't feel like supporting GGG and qq because some people did get some extra stash tabs, and qq because others support gg and you don't ever want to, then you are also free to leave since you are clearly not having a good time with the game. And saying yu are supporting the game financially without any supporter logo's next to your name is possible but suspicious especially with your qq

Stop strawmanning.

I've EXPLICITLY stated that I will continue to play and that I will pay for this.

I'm saying this is unethical, not to that I won't pay up.

Secondly, once you point to me a player actually being anywhere in the top 100 without paid for stuff, I'll admit it's not PTW. Till then I stand by my point and disagree with your assertion.[/quote]

NO player spend that much time on the game without supporting - which means your argument is a straw man argument.

Also saying over and over again that you support financially is funny. Saying it so often I would expect you have purchased all the supporter packs up until now.It is possible to support without falling into a supporter pack category, but I am not sure I can take you seriously in your claim. It is possible to support without activating any support category, but it seems more plausible that you don't give a dime.[/quote]

[Removed by Support]

People can absolutely play as much as anyone else without supporting. The whole reason people pay for stash tabs is because they want to win, not because they are doing selfless stuff for GGG.

Stop showing off that you can spend hundreds of dollars to get cute cosmetic effects. So can I. A lot more than you in fact.

The point is this is PTW and I will not talk with someone who just keeps flinging insults instead of responding to the issues on point.

It is not possible to win without paying now and that is a lie and false promise made by GGG. It is still an incredibly good game, which is why I'll keep playing it. That has nothing to do with the fact that you are being rude and obnoxious without addressing the point.

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jooozek wrote:

So what you are saying is that if I don't have any premium stash tabs, I can't sell stuff anymore?

You can still sell stuff, the usual way, but this gives people extra options.

Absolute filth! love this!

Thank you GGG :)

You mean we have to BUY, with real money, the ability to TRADE in-game?

Okay, this is absolute bullshit, and I'm not afraid to say it out loud. No; fix the game and give us a real trading system.


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