[2.4] "The Lawn Mower™" God Tier Blade Vortex / UBER & SHAPER deathless / with video! Atlas Ready!

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skullreaper1012 wrote:
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Kiritsu wrote:
Hey blasting cap, or anyone in the forum. I'm playing on a different server, would you guys mind helping me check my gears and feedback me on how improve my dps? https://web.poe.garena.com/forum/view-thread/374727


Hi, I didn't check your passive tree out but I looked at your gear and ur character sheet.

Try to get +400 es helm, +500 es shield, a crystal belt with at least +100 es.

Try to get some mana regeneration on your rings and if possible, try to find one where you can craft Max es%. If your budget allows it, try to get diamond base ring, if not, no problem.

Get yourself a new shavs if possible and remove life leech gem and substitute with either vinktar's flask or warlord's mark. Since you already use warlord's mark, I'd suggest using empower level 4 on your red slot until then.

Once you obtain vinktar's (physical damage to lightning damage), you can drop warlord's mark for vulnerability for more damage.


Look to get a better uber enchant on your skyforths. I prefer cast speed/attack speed if you killed recently enchant on my boots.

Try to get similar dagger with crit multi if you can. If you do this, you can free up your glove slot so you can use a high es rare glove.

Don't use max level clarity... It's not needed, you want to use your life to get auras and then use clarity for the remaining portion of the life.


Thanks bro, really aappreciate the feedback.
Just bring down the shaper! Thanks anyone giving me advices including OP, helping me upgrade.



I swap my increased crit damage node to physical to lightning as i wanted to use 2 vinktar and i cannot afford another conversion version vinktar. i swapped my ES gloves to facebreaker, and swap my herald of ice to herald of ash.
Not only that, i also use orb of storm+ pcoc to sustain my power charges.
DPS grow from 35k to 51k(aura on) from the last time i attempt shaper, but ES drop from 9.4k to 8.8k.

But the fight was a struggle, still dont have enough damage to bring down fast enough until vortex ball all over the place, i manage to kill him on my last portal though. I wonder what upgrade now i can do to make my next attempt easier and smoother.

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xslasherz wrote:
Just bring down the shaper! Thanks anyone giving me advices including OP, helping me upgrade.



I swap my increased crit damage node to physical to lightning as i wanted to use 2 vinktar and i cannot afford another conversion version vinktar. i swapped my ES gloves to facebreaker, and swap my herald of ice to herald of ash.
Not only that, i also use orb of storm+ pcoc to sustain my power charges.
DPS grow from 35k to 51k(aura on) from the last time i attempt shaper, but ES drop from 9.4k to 8.8k.

But the fight was a struggle, still dont have enough damage to bring down fast enough until vortex ball all over the place, i manage to kill him on my last portal though. I wonder what upgrade now i can do to make my next attempt easier and smoother.


You could try using vulnerability instead of ass.mark and also try to fit in atziri's promise , it adds a lot of damage to both initial damage of BV and poison damage afterwards.
2 vinktars and a chalice is a completely overkill and a waste of flask slots , imo.
50k tooltip with just auras is more then enough actually for smooth shaper farm , probably you just need to practice a bit with managing those vortex balls and explode them outside of the shaper's arena , not in the middle of it.
Other than that - your gear is pretty decent , not much you can do to boost your damage.
Except maybe taking dual curse and buying vuln on hit facebreakers and changing crystal belt.
Shield with spell damage and crit for spells is also a huge dps boost but given that you don't have skyforth yet - such a shield is not a option for you so i'm not suggesting it above everything else.
Jewels with spell damage and crit multi also adds a lot - so i'd recommend checking poe.trade for some upgrades if yours are not good enough.
hope that helps
Hi guys,

I've been trying to make a build for lvl 90, and come up with:

New tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAQPuBx4NfA3RDlwPqw_EEQ8RLxFQFr8XlhmKGo8bJR2qHb4i9CSLKPoqCyo4KlMrCi9vM4c1uTdMOw07fD1fQZZFfkZxRwZJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNXyV3yX2piWmNDaoxq-mwLbRlwUnC7df12gnvXf5Z_xoLHgwmEb4nTjDaNko_6kyeVLpcGl5WX9J9toS-io6crrrOv67JwtAy1SLjKuZO-isHFwwnDOsSix53IDMgUytPQH9DQ0PXUQtfP2RPZW9te35jhiOOE5-rpAumY6rrrY-v17BjviO_r8NXyHfLh9W_22vc9-TP5N_sJ_kk=

Im going to use Energy From Within near Mending, and also picked up the extra Written in Blood nodes.

Im concerned about lacking damage due to fewer jewels and no True Strike.

Besides the original links uses no Faster Casting or Spell Echo, is that still viable for mapping and bosses?

Thanks,
Last edited by ckp2906#7630 on Oct 29, 2016, 9:35:31 AM
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xslasherz wrote:
Just bring down the shaper! Thanks anyone giving me advices including OP, helping me upgrade.



I swap my increased crit damage node to physical to lightning as i wanted to use 2 vinktar and i cannot afford another conversion version vinktar. i swapped my ES gloves to facebreaker, and swap my herald of ice to herald of ash.
Not only that, i also use orb of storm+ pcoc to sustain my power charges.
DPS grow from 35k to 51k(aura on) from the last time i attempt shaper, but ES drop from 9.4k to 8.8k.

But the fight was a struggle, still dont have enough damage to bring down fast enough until vortex ball all over the place, i manage to kill him on my last portal though. I wonder what upgrade now i can do to make my next attempt easier and smoother.



You've deviated pretty far from the build in the OP, as a result your damage is going to tank, despite what your tool tip number might say, especially if it's artificially inflated by things like herald of ash (why are you running that?).

your 6L setup is wildly different, running spell echo, and crit strikes instead of increased duration and crit damage is most definitely gimping your damage, similarly if you're going up against shaper you should be swapping in concentrated effect and something else instead of item rarity like added chaos damage (which I assume you're doing).

The tool tip is not always the best indicator of how to scale your damage, especially when factoring in: enemy elemental resistances, diamond flask doesn't modify tool tip dps, poison damage isn't indicated on tool tip either, etc.

Tldr: your support setup is hurting your dps, don't rely on tool tip as the source of truth for getting the best dps.
"there is no spoone" - The Matricks
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ssMETALURGss wrote:
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xslasherz wrote:
Just bring down the shaper! Thanks anyone giving me advices including OP, helping me upgrade.



I swap my increased crit damage node to physical to lightning as i wanted to use 2 vinktar and i cannot afford another conversion version vinktar. i swapped my ES gloves to facebreaker, and swap my herald of ice to herald of ash.
Not only that, i also use orb of storm+ pcoc to sustain my power charges.
DPS grow from 35k to 51k(aura on) from the last time i attempt shaper, but ES drop from 9.4k to 8.8k.

But the fight was a struggle, still dont have enough damage to bring down fast enough until vortex ball all over the place, i manage to kill him on my last portal though. I wonder what upgrade now i can do to make my next attempt easier and smoother.


You could try using vulnerability instead of ass.mark and also try to fit in atziri's promise , it adds a lot of damage to both initial damage of BV and poison damage afterwards.
2 vinktars and a chalice is a completely overkill and a waste of flask slots , imo.
50k tooltip with just auras is more then enough actually for smooth shaper farm , probably you just need to practice a bit with managing those vortex balls and explode them outside of the shaper's arena , not in the middle of it.
Other than that - your gear is pretty decent , not much you can do to boost your damage.
Except maybe taking dual curse and buying vuln on hit facebreakers and changing crystal belt.
Shield with spell damage and crit for spells is also a huge dps boost but given that you don't have skyforth yet - such a shield is not a option for you so i'm not suggesting it above everything else.
Jewels with spell damage and crit multi also adds a lot - so i'd recommend checking poe.trade for some upgrades if yours are not good enough.
hope that helps


Thanks for the feedback! i would like to have atziri flask but having 2 vinktar sometime help me alot in many situation in shaper fight when i mess up the flask charges. It give me a little more room for error i suppose.

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You've deviated pretty far from the build in the OP, as a result your damage is going to tank, despite what your tool tip number might say, especially if it's artificially inflated by things like herald of ash (why are you running that?).

your 6L setup is wildly different, running spell echo, and crit strikes instead of increased duration and crit damage is most definitely gimping your damage, similarly if you're going up against shaper you should be swapping in concentrated effect and something else instead of item rarity like added chaos damage (which I assume you're doing).

The tool tip is not always the best indicator of how to scale your damage, especially when factoring in: enemy elemental resistances, diamond flask doesn't modify tool tip dps, poison damage isn't indicated on tool tip either, etc.

Tldr: your support setup is hurting your dps, don't rely on tool tip as the source of truth for getting the best dps.


My bad, i link the setup after i go mapping.
I swap conc.effect with inc.aoe and inc.crit dmg to item rarity support gem when im mapping.
I suppose herald of ash did better than herald of ice when taking big boss. 15% extra fire dmg, while HOI are good for mapping in general i think? Correct me if im wrong
My setup for shaper:
BV + spell cho + conc effect + controlled destruction + inc crit strke + phys to lightning (should be crit dmg support because i don have the second conversion vinktar.
Anyway thanks for your feedback!
Prompt please, gloves can not run an aura of clarity of mind, writes enough health and I can not unleash a whirlwind of blades, tell me what my mistakes, my nickname Arrows_speed,and what to do with the bandits who help and who does not?
Last edited by Keenetik10#4109 on Oct 29, 2016, 2:46:20 PM
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Last edited by ckp2906#7630 on Oct 30, 2016, 3:25:24 AM
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Kunibald wrote:

You don't have to be concerned because of your damage. Your damage will be always good. Just if you want to do Shaper. Well ... lvl up, get more jewels and kill him.

As I said I wouldn't skill into "Dreamer". Mana nodes are not needed at all. I also wouldn't skill the extra nodes near "Written in Blood". With those 4 points you can go for "Unnatural Calm", which gives you Int(5in = 1%ES --> 4%ES), a lot more ES and +1 max ligthning res. The result looks like that: https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAAPu99cNfA3RDlwPqw_EEQ8RLxFQFr8XlhmKGo8bJR2qHb4i9CSLKPoqCyo4XGsrCi9vM4c1uTdMOw07fD1fQZZFfkZxRwZJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNXyV3yX2piWmNDaoxq-mwLbRlwUnC7df12gnvXf5Z_xoLHgwmEb4nTjDaNko_6kyesmJcGl5WX9J9toS-io6crrrOv64RItAy1SLjKuZO-isHFwwnDOsSix53IDMgUytPQH9DQ0PXUQtfP2RPZW9te35jhiOOE5-rpAumY6rrrY-v17BjviO_r8NXyHfLh9W_22vc9-TP5N_sJ_knDbQ==

For the equipment and links just look into my character tap. The character is: BVKuni. I do have linked BV, echo, Contr. Destr., inc.AOE, incr. crit and incr. crit dmg. I do use that setup for bosses and mapping. There is no need for Incr. Duration. I do switch inc. aoe for concentrated effect for doing bosses.

I tried faster casting instead of echo, but echo feels better. You could try that for yourself. Faster casting doesn't have 10% less damage.

Edit: I removed "True Strike" since I already have enough crit chance. The reason was my shield:


Thanks again!

You dont have the poison nodes in Pathfinder, but still go for chaos dmg on tree. How do you poison then?
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Kiritsu wrote:
Hey blasting cap, or anyone in the forum. I'm playing on a different server, would you guys mind helping me check my gears and feedback me on how improve my dps? https://web.poe.garena.com/forum/view-thread/374727


bumping this post. Not sure if cuz I'm running on Occultist, hence that explains my dps tooltip is generally lower than that of other classes. Is Spell echo > Increased duration?

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