[2.4] "The Lawn Mower™" God Tier Blade Vortex / UBER & SHAPER deathless / with video! Atlas Ready!

Thank you very much! I did some maths with all the crit Formulars i found in the wiki etc. and everytime force shaper gave me so much more dmg. Somewhere the Creator of this build mentioned that crit multi gave him way more dmg and i wanted that to be true for my current state of the build but i couldn't understand and the math didnt work out :D
Below is my current gear. I definitely need to work on getting multicrit. I'm also very short on Strength, so I have to have an ammy/jewels with a lot of it.

I plan to upgrade my gloves, shield, helm and ammy when currency is available. Is it worth multicrafting the dagger? Just hit lvl 90 and I can tell my dps is lacking, really need to work on that. q

ES is sitting at 7500 with my non-str gems in and my tooltip dps is 10k...

I still need to buy an enlighten 4. After that, my dps will be 11.5k or so.
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Last edited by r3dd09#3335 on Oct 13, 2016, 2:32:14 PM
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r3dd09 wrote:
Below is my current gear. I definitely need to work on getting multicrit. I'm also very short on Strength, so I have to have an ammy/jewels with a lot of it.

I plan to upgrade my gloves, shield, helm and ammy when currency is available. Is it worth multicrafting the dagger? Just hit lvl 90 and I can tell my dps is lacking, really need to work on that. q

ES is sitting at 7500 with my non-str gems in and my tooltip dps is 10k...

I still need to buy an enlighten 4. After that, my dps will be 11.5k or so.

Your gear looks pretty good already. You can multimod the dagger to get attack speed for Whirling Blades too, but probably you want to get a bit more ES first (if Whirling Blades is too slow, you can revert to Shield Charge which benefits from the Movement Speed flask).

Helm and Shield could be better, but it will be very expensive to get upgrades probably.
Easiest is to craft %ES on your rings, get Jewels with %ES.
Other thing is 6L the Shavs (also expensive), and honestly I would use Increased Critical Strikes before Damage in a 5L (more flask charges, more reliable crit, maybe you even increase raw dps because of crit multi from tree and you probably can use another flask).

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Oh, and you don't need a lvl 4 Enlighten in order to fit all the auras, a lvl 21 Blood Magic and lvl 3 Enlightens are enough too - you have to sacrifice a gem slot though (have to take out Golem for example, although that is also a quality of life :D)
Last edited by daish0#3486 on Oct 14, 2016, 1:46:47 AM
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daish0 wrote:
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r3dd09 wrote:
Below is my current gear. I definitely need to work on getting multicrit. I'm also very short on Strength, so I have to have an ammy/jewels with a lot of it.

I plan to upgrade my gloves, shield, helm and ammy when currency is available. Is it worth multicrafting the dagger? Just hit lvl 90 and I can tell my dps is lacking, really need to work on that. q

ES is sitting at 7500 with my non-str gems in and my tooltip dps is 10k...

I still need to buy an enlighten 4. After that, my dps will be 11.5k or so.

Your gear looks pretty good already. You can multimod the dagger to get attack speed for Whirling Blades too, but probably you want to get a bit more ES first (if Whirling Blades is too slow, you can revert to Shield Charge which benefits from the Movement Speed flask).

Helm and Shield could be better, but it will be very expensive to get upgrades probably.
Easiest is to craft %ES on your rings, get Jewels with %ES.
Other thing is 6L the Shavs (also expensive), and honestly I would use Increased Critical Strikes before Damage in a 5L (more flask charges, more reliable crit, maybe you even increase raw dps because of crit multi from tree and you probably can use another flask).

/Edit:
Oh, and you don't need a lvl 4 Enlighten in order to fit all the auras, a lvl 21 Blood Magic and lvl 3 Enlightens are enough too - you have to sacrifice a gem slot though (have to take out Golem for example, although that is also a quality of life :D)



I did some upgrading yesterday
and got this.

I still need to get the multistrike points from the tree, I might regret some stuff to get those, but we'll see.

I have some EX to craft ES on this ring
. I need to find an upgrade for the other ring before considering throwing an exalt at it to craft.

I'll try to pick up an enlighten today.
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NomCarver wrote:
Hey Guys, just picked up a skyforth, and decided to switch builds from ED/cont to the lawnmower. Loving it so far, but I have a few questions:

1)I've seen people with 45k tooltip DPS completely unbuffed by auras/flasks etc. The highest I've seen mine go in hideout without buffs is 25k. And with buffs, I top out at ~60k, nowhere near the 200k mark that I've seen screenshots of. What can I improve on my gear to get closer to those bench marks? (gear below)

2) I'm currently running emp4 - echo - conc effec - crit damage - controlled dest- BV in my 6link. Would I be better off dropping EMP4 for increased crits or added chaos? I've seen a lot of people on 5 blue one green and I'm wondering if that's because EMP isn't as good, or because it's easier to roll/acquire.

3) I'm having trouble keeping vinktar up 24/7. I don't have overflowing chalice yet, just read about that one, but for the Maze of the Minotaur boss, I'm getting consistently 1-2 shot, and as soon as vinktar's flask effect drops, I die. I'm at 8.3k es with discipline up. Is this not enough defenses, or do I need to find a better way to sustain vinktar?

4) Is my aura set-up good? Right now I've got Herald - Disc - BM - Clarity, and hatred - haste - blas - warlord's mark. I like warlords for the convenience factor mapping, but I feel like I could do better on auras. I have 2 enlighten 3s, no en4s.

Gear Below:
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Let me know what I should be working on.



1) Let me explain (I hope I understand everything correctly and sry for my English).
Tooltipe dps doesn't shows exact dps. It's possible to get up to 500k tooltipe dps but deal less damage. It displays how many damage you deal when pressing your BV skill along 1 second.

So:
~300k dps on authors tooltipe and cast time 0.13s:
Casts per second: 1 / 0.13s = ~7.7
Damage from one stack of BV: 300k / 7.7 = ~39k dps
Damage from 20 stacks of BV: 39k * 20 = ~780k dps

In my case 138k dps on tooltipe and cast time 0.27s:
Casts per second: 1 / 0.27s = ~3.7
Damage from one stack of BV: 134k / 7.7 = ~37k dps
Damage from 20 stacks of BV: 39k * 20 = ~745k dps

Not a big difference as on tooltipes, right?

My:
30k dps on concentrated eff.
+Hatred = 39k
+Herald of Ash = 42k
+Herald of Ice = 56k

+6 power charges = 76k
+Taste of Haste flask = 93k
+Atziri's Promise flask = 118k
+The overflowing Chalice flask = 131
+Vessel of Vinktar flask (phys to lightn. conversion, just for life leech) = 134k dps
+Summon Flame Golem = 138k dps

Atziri (not uber) dies even don't shows her healthbar.



2) I'm running "BV-duration-echo-incrArea-critDamage-controlledDest" while farming.
"BV-AddedFire-echo-incrArea-critDamage-controlledDest" while farming high lvl.
"BV-AddedFire-echo-concEffec-critDamage-controlledDest" meeting with boss.
Its better AddedFire than emp3 for me. (I never try emp4)

3) Same here. But warlords mask do his job. Even on minotaur when vessel flask is gone life-es-leech is enough to survive.

4)
My auras:
MB-Herald of Ash-Herald of Ice-Clarity(15lvl)
Blasphemy-Warlord's-Discipline
Hatred

Survivers kit:
Vaal discipline-Vaal discipline-Duration-emp3

1844 mana/1642 reserved so I have 202 free mana + good mana regen (128) = more than enough.
7.3f es (it's hard to me to get better) and jevelry without dps dependent mods
My gear:


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Last edited by Stridemann#4694 on Oct 14, 2016, 5:12:33 PM
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Stridemann wrote:
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NomCarver wrote:
Hey Guys, just picked up a skyforth, and decided to switch builds from ED/cont to the lawnmower. Loving it so far, but I have a few questions:

1)I've seen people with 45k tooltip DPS completely unbuffed by auras/flasks etc. The highest I've seen mine go in hideout without buffs is 25k. And with buffs, I top out at ~60k, nowhere near the 200k mark that I've seen screenshots of. What can I improve on my gear to get closer to those bench marks? (gear below)

2) I'm currently running emp4 - echo - conc effec - crit damage - controlled dest- BV in my 6link. Would I be better off dropping EMP4 for increased crits or added chaos? I've seen a lot of people on 5 blue one green and I'm wondering if that's because EMP isn't as good, or because it's easier to roll/acquire.

3) I'm having trouble keeping vinktar up 24/7. I don't have overflowing chalice yet, just read about that one, but for the Maze of the Minotaur boss, I'm getting consistently 1-2 shot, and as soon as vinktar's flask effect drops, I die. I'm at 8.3k es with discipline up. Is this not enough defenses, or do I need to find a better way to sustain vinktar?

4) Is my aura set-up good? Right now I've got Herald - Disc - BM - Clarity, and hatred - haste - blas - warlord's mark. I like warlords for the convenience factor mapping, but I feel like I could do better on auras. I have 2 enlighten 3s, no en4s.

Gear Below:
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Let me know what I should be working on.
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Stridemann wrote:



1) Let me explain (I hope I understand everything correctly and sry for my English).
Tooltipe dps doesn't shows exact dps. It's possible to get up to 500k tooltipe dps but deal less damage. It displays how many damage you deal when pressing your BV skill along 1 second.

So:
~300k dps on authors tooltipe and cast time 0.13s:
Casts per second: 1 / 0.13s = ~7.7
Damage from one stack of BV: 300k / 7.7 = ~39k dps
Damage from 20 stacks of BV: 39k * 20 = ~780k dps

In my case 138k dps on tooltipe and cast time 0.27s:
Casts per second: 1 / 0.27s = ~3.7
Damage from one stack of BV: 134k / 7.7 = ~37k dps
Damage from 20 stacks of BV: 39k * 20 = ~745k dps

Not a big difference as on tooltipes, right?

My:
30k dps on concentrated eff.
+Hatred = 39k
+Herald of Ash = 42k
+Herald of Ice = 56k

+6 power charges = 76k
+Taste of Haste flask = 93k
+Atziri's Promise flask = 118k
+The overflowing Chalice flask = 131
+Vessel of Vinktar flask (phys to lightn. conversion, just for life leech) = 134k dps
+Summon Flame Golem = 138k dps

Atziri (not uber) dies even don't shows her healthbar.



2) I'm running "BV-duration-echo-incrArea-critDamage-controlledDest" while farming.
"BV-AddedFire-echo-incrArea-critDamage-controlledDest" while farming high lvl.
"BV-AddedFire-echo-concEffec-critDamage-controlledDest" meeting with boss.
Its better AddedFire than emp3 for me. (I never try emp4)

3) Same here. But warlords mask do his job. Even on minotaur when vessel flask is gone life-es-leech is enough to survive.

4)
My auras:
MB-Herald of Ash-Herald of Ice-Clarity(15lvl)
Blasphemy-Warlord's-Discipline
Hatred

Survivers kit:
Vaal discipline-Vaal discipline-Duration-emp3

1844 mana/1642 reserved so I have 202 free mana + good mana regen (128) = more than enough.
7.3f es (it's hard to me to get better) and jevelry without dps dependent mods
My gear:


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Okay i got all of that but can you tell me now why you take Throatseeker over Forceshaper? For my / our calculations inccreasing the phys damage by for example 15% has approx. the same effekt as increasing inc cirt dmg by 15%.
Last edited by Hookahtowlie#4608 on Oct 14, 2016, 7:40:55 PM
Why is Arcane Potency skipped over, say, True Strike or Trickery (using Witch tree)? Getting better tooltip DPS per point with Arcane Potency, so I'm curious if I'm missing something here.
running dual curse atm.
do you prefer vuln/assassin's mark or enfeeble/assassin's mark or vuln/enfeeble?
Have ~22k dps with auras up.
~11k dps in town.
9.6k es
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Hookahtowlie wrote:
Okay i got all of that but can you tell me now why you take Throatseeker over Forceshaper? For my / our calculations inccreasing the phys damage by for example 15% has approx. the same effekt as increasing inc cirt dmg by 15%.

Okay, yes, that is good too. Thanks.

My test:

52k dps +
1) Forceshaper (71% incr phys): = 60k
2) Throatseeker (54% crit mult): = 58k
3) Both: 68k

Finally 157k (with flasks + power ch.) tooltipe dps and 848k real dps on 20 BV stacks.
Last edited by Stridemann#4694 on Oct 15, 2016, 4:58:02 PM
Hello, I want to try this build but I just came back to standard after years away.

What would the passive tree look like around level 41?

Should I be leveling with a bow and quiver for now and then swapping to blade vortex in the future? Or do I just immediately get a dagger and start using blade vortex? Can I use two daggers?

Thanks

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