[2.2] Blade Vortex FLASK MASTER. 88% All Res, 75/75 Block, 500-800k DPS, INSTANT LEECH

I don't get why spending 5 points and getting Herbalism isn't worth it...
flasks got ripped

taste of hate and especially VoV. don't think theres any legacy version either, so you'll essentially need vaal pact or GTFO.

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Taste of Hate now only makes you take 20% of physical damage as cold damage. It now adds 20-30% of physical as cold, rather than always 30%.
Vessel of Vinktar has been reduced to 20% Life and Mana leech. It no longer grants "Leech applies instantly during Flask effect". It also consumes more charges when used, so you cannot use the flask twice per fill any more.


not sure how they'll roll each taste of hate. will it change values from 30% to a random number between 20-30? hope i get lucky and get 30. or will this stat go legacy or something?

all in all i do still think alchemist is worth taking, but VoV is definitely not a massive go-to anymore. not sure what this will do to my hyaon build, as it absolutely required it. might just need to spec vaal pact, or maybe i can do without the instant leech...i don't know.

either way i know what builds im focusing on now, and blade vortex as well as builds that basically require these flasks is not one of them any longer
Last edited by xMustard#3403 on Mar 2, 2016, 10:15:20 PM
Holy moly, VoV got raped. Taste of Hate changes I don't think are that severe, but VoV?!

I'm so used to builds I play getting nerfed constantly all I do is laugh these days.

On the bright side - Vaal Pact is just one point away from your build.
for this build, yeah, but im not going to be replicating this build...definitely not as ranger anyway.

this does heavily effect one of my other builds, and i almost guarantee the VoV changes will most all be retro...but definitely the leech changes. theres no way those are going legacy. if so i'll just laugh even more, or maybe i'll sell my vinktar's for 100ex.

eh...was a good theorycraft anyway. BV was confirmed to have dropped its hit rate as well, but will definitely be a much more powerful skill since its double damage AND effectiveness. probably will still play a BV build because of its added power and stuff, but def as something other than ranger
Well if they are adding a new mod to VoV and removing the instant leech - this MAY create a legacy version with all the old mods.
Well, i was thinking of doing a BV build for the upcoming league. Though i've never tried one before (and so i'm not really sure of the things that im gonna say), i think the patch notes cause a severe nerf to the skill itself. Im not talking about VoV, which is a damn awful nerf. Im talking about the spell itself.
The 2.2.0 patch note says:
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The frequency with which Blade Vortex's can repeatedly hit the same enemy has been halved, but its damage and damage effectiveness have been doubled.


This means the BV will hit less time doing double damage. This is a NERF. Coz now you are really vulnerable to reflect.
Or, at least, i think there gonna be ref problems.
Interesting patch notes. At least most was expected. Would have been nice to get better explanations to flask nerfs. Well patch comes tomorrow so easy to see how items look after this. Better to wait for tomorrow with all theorycraftings it seems.
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Those were some pretty painful nerfs, but I feel like vaal pact makes this build pretty viable with vinktars and a diamond flask. Am I wrong?
Last edited by h4stings#0668 on Mar 3, 2016, 10:09:58 AM
Yes, xMustards build is still viable. It is weaker than he initially planned. There are quite a big nerfs. Although if going with Vinktar then Pathfinder could be the only one who can get 2 uses out of it in some boss fights.
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well the actual BUFF to blade vortex COULD potentially cause reflect problems, but i highly doubt it. most likely because of the nerfs to flasks you'll want to pump up your survivability a bit more, which will drop your DPS.

you can still EASILY have dps over 500k with 50 blades up, that is no question, as right now i have over 2 million dps with 50 blades up and RF active. the double effectiveness on BV will buff its damage quite significantly though.

hitting harder and less frequent does put you in the danger zone, but i think in reflect situations if you just limit the amount of blades you have you'll still be plenty fine. since i'd say the average BV damage per hit per blade will be looking at around 10-20k. by having 50 blades up you'll gib yourself, if the game considers all of those blades to hit at once and thus doesn't leech the damage from each one separately after each hit, but as a whole.

however i do think the game still counts each hit separate, thus you leech the damage after each separate hit, so you can't just pile up 50 blades and BOOM 1.5 million damage to your face, but rather 50 different 30,000 damage to your face, to which you can instantly leech back if you have vaal pact/enough leech (like vessel).


with a really good belt like this

you should easily have two usages of vinktar's, unless they change it so it consumes all charges on one use.

otherwise the focus is less on flasks since vinktar's will be out, and thus you'll need to socket life leech gem OR even better you just use warlord's mark for life instead of life leech gem/vinktar's. but either way vaal pact or acuity kinda becomes a must

at this point, kind of depending on vinktar's is changed (retro or legacy), you may be better off grabbing up a normal topaz flask and running effect on it just for higher resistances.

the build can definitely still work, and don't read it wrong, blade vortex is actually getting a significant buff...but i just don't see a reason to take this build ranger side any longer. it isn't really about flasks anymore.
taste of hate is still amazing and will continue to be amazing even if the nerfs are retro, but otherwise you're free to use any other ascendancy to further boost defenses.

personally i really like the look of scion/trickster/berserker
or if consuming dark DOES go legacy, you can run with a legacy version on BV with added fire/HoA/hatred with pyre ring to get mass amounts of chaos damage, and use wither totem + scion chieftain (30% inc dmg while totem out, regen 2% of hp while totem out, gain 15% of phys as extra fire dmg) and something else defensive
Last edited by xMustard#3403 on Mar 3, 2016, 11:31:38 AM

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