[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

I was still thinking about the Slow/Fast Dagger Topic, so i finalygot around to test this.

Went to PvP with a Guild Mate.
I used a 1.2 APS Demon Dagger and a 1.5 APS Poignard. Dyadian Dawn to not kill him and a Blade Vortex to count procs.

I cycloned on him 4 PVP rounds, 2 with the slow Dagger, 2 with the fast one. Slow Dagger had a maximum of 18 Stacks, the fast one had 21. So it actually does make a difference.

With a quicksilver both got to just over 30 so i´d say that my build just does not get enough Movespeed to make the slower base work as good as the fast one, propably 1 normal attack between the initial hits.

So ye got that cleard up i guess.


@Mibulla

Happy to hear that you enjoy the build so much!

Your Gear is really sick, not mcuh there to improve.

You could try to get a better Dagger, the Gutting Knife has low APS and Low base crit, so something like a Kris or Poignard/Skean would be better.

But thats just nitpicking, if it crushes everything allready ;)

Then theres some little thing like a Q23 Cyclone for more AoE uhm ye you see, running out of ideas.

@DjParagon

Don´t really need a Taste, a Atziris Promise and Quicksilver do the Job just fine imho.


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Yeah that's what I use, but I'd like one Taste, it looks pretty cool and beasty and can work on many of my chars.

I'll try do do some more Atziri if I can get more midnights. Maybe I'll get lucky with the drops, which usually never happens.
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If you run Atziri for the Challenge go ahead, if you do it for Profit.. honestly better sell the sets. Everything except the Hope is worth less than the Set, better do Maps, Lake or Lab if you want to make some Profit.
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Oh cool, thanks for the info man, was hoping to sell some belts actually.

Even Dried Lake is better ? Man, I guess I'll do some Labs then (sell the enchants ?), have not been very lucky with the Lake and am starting to get bored runing it.
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hello everyone im new to this CoC and i must say i love it. Any helpful tips or advice on the current gear i have would be awsome. Also i dont have much for currency i have 4ex only reason i have those is because they droped for me and about 100c.

But alot of items that i need for upgrades cost alot more than what i have to afford.I dont play 10 hours a day just a few hours at night so i dont have a ton of currency at my disposal and also i have not found any item at all of any worth this league yet and chancing for skyforths since last league and nothing there yet.

I guess what im asking is with the limited resources i have any way i can improve this gear anymore?




Also before this build i was playing KB didnt like it but i put about 1200 fusings into this should i even bother anymore?

You can go quite far with a 5 link, no need to keep your Tabula. I did Atziri with a 5L.

I personnaly bought a decent ES/EV armor for a few chaos and 5 linked it myself. You can also buy a cheap low stats 6L if you really want the 6L but in my opinion, look for a good ES/EV and link it yourself. You can at least get 5L without too much trouble.

However, if you're already like level 90 or something, well, wait for better suggestions ^^

EDIT: You're not using leech at all ?
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Last edited by DjParagon#4855 on Jul 20, 2016, 5:51:10 PM
I'm no expert, but just from experience...

I was using a tabula up to lvl 70ish until I actually started looking at trade list for an upgrade. Picked up my current chest for 8c. Corrupted, I know it isn't great by a long shot but was a huge upgrade over Tabula for the price. Hell, any 6 link is better than Tabula if it has the correct gem slot colours.

Last edited by choyta#2460 on Jul 20, 2016, 7:25:18 PM
100% agree with choyta!

Every 6L is better than a Tab, i mean look his one has 134ES and 2x 30% Res and thats a realyl cheap one.

With 4ex you can for sure buy a high Item level ES/EV 6L and just roll it with Alts + Regal for 300-400 ES.

Just recently i sold a 400ES/1kEV 6L for 120C... so ye... its really not hard to get a decent 6L at the moment.

What DjParagon says is also a good option if you are looking to upgrade from a 300-400ES chest. Buy a really GG rolled unlinked one and spam fusings at it.

I don´t like to recommend this to get the first Armour as it may very well fail and never 6L. But as a Project to use the fusings on once you allready have something decent its a very good option imho.

Btw: Beastfur Shawl is nice but its close to impossible to get the right colours on it.

Apart from your chest you could also look into getting a Amulet with more ES on it (%ES and flat ES) and Crit Multi on it.

Sorrow of the Divine does exactly nothing as we have Vaal Pact so we can´t profit from the regeneration, if you want to use it for the Damage better roll a normal Sulphur Flask to have some usefull Mods on it too.

I also recommend using a LL Gem, but ye your choice if you feel like Arc is doing anything substantial.
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Last edited by ZweihundertMorder#5678 on Jul 20, 2016, 10:25:50 PM
Hey Bro.

Thx for the tips.

replaced the other items, and got the +23 qual cyclone, now its even more sick :D

Know the belt aint the best but the shield provide the resist the belt dont have.




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ZweihundertMorder wrote:
I was still thinking about the Slow/Fast Dagger Topic, so i finalygot around to test this.

Went to PvP with a Guild Mate.
I used a 1.2 APS Demon Dagger and a 1.5 APS Poignard. Dyadian Dawn to not kill him and a Blade Vortex to count procs.

I cycloned on him 4 PVP rounds, 2 with the slow Dagger, 2 with the fast one. Slow Dagger had a maximum of 18 Stacks, the fast one had 21. So it actually does make a difference.

With a quicksilver both got to just over 30 so i´d say that my build just does not get enough Movespeed to make the slower base work as good as the fast one, propably 1 normal attack between the initial hits.

So ye got that cleard up i guess.


@Mibulla

Happy to hear that you enjoy the build so much!

Your Gear is really sick, not mcuh there to improve.

You could try to get a better Dagger, the Gutting Knife has low APS and Low base crit, so something like a Kris or Poignard/Skean would be better.

But thats just nitpicking, if it crushes everything allready ;)

Then theres some little thing like a Q23 Cyclone for more AoE uhm ye you see, running out of ideas.

@DjParagon

Don´t really need a Taste, a Atziris Promise and Quicksilver do the Job just fine imho.


Last edited by Mibulla#3080 on Jul 21, 2016, 7:10:39 AM
thanks everyone for your input greatly appreciated

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:
100% agree with choyta!

Every 6L is better than a Tab, i mean look his one has 134ES and 2x 30% Res and thats a realyl cheap one.

With 4ex you can for sure buy a high Item level ES/EV 6L and just roll it with Alts + Regal for 300-400 ES.

Just recently i sold a 400ES/1kEV 6L for 120C... so ye... its really not hard to get a decent 6L at the moment.

What DjParagon says is also a good option if you are looking to upgrade from a 300-400ES chest. Buy a really GG rolled unlinked one and spam fusings at it.

I don´t like to recommend this to get the first Armour as it may very well fail and never 6L. But as a Project to use the fusings on once you allready have something decent its a very good option imho.

Btw: Beastfur Shawl is nice but its close to impossible to get the right colours on it.

Apart from your chest you could also look into getting a Amulet with more ES on it (%ES and flat ES) and Crit Multi on it.

Sorrow of the Divine does exactly nothing as we have Vaal Pact so we can´t profit from the regeneration, if you want to use it for the Damage better roll a normal Sulphur Flask to have some usefull Mods on it too.

"
I'm no expert, but just from experience...

I was using a tabula up to lvl 70ish until I actually started looking at trade list for an upgrade. Picked up my current chest for 8c. Corrupted, I know it isn't great by a long shot but was a huge upgrade over Tabula for the price. Hell, any 6 link is better than Tabula if it has the correct gem slot colours.


I also recommend using a LL Gem, but ye your choice if you feel like Arc is doing anything substantial.


"
You can go quite far with a 5 link, no need to keep your Tabula. I did Atziri with a 5L.

I personnaly bought a decent ES/EV armor for a few chaos and 5 linked it myself. You can also buy a cheap low stats 6L if you really want the 6L but in my opinion, look for a good ES/EV and link it yourself. You can at least get 5L without too much trouble.

However, if you're already like level 90 or something, well, wait for better suggestions ^^

EDIT: You're not using leech at all ?


I use sevral gems when doing low tier maps also done T13 and uber lab and below with out ever feeling like i need LL. Maybe for Atziri and core but i havent done them yet. Also i find that added Chaos does a lot damage feels that way anyhow. Still searching for a chest and i changed my flask.
Cant afford a taste of hate yet I feel my bit of currency is best wasted on a chest atm.

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