[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

@Rowen_Edge

The base speed on the dagger is irrelevant for WB.

WB only cares about the % increased on the dagger.

A 1.2 APS Dagger with 10% increased mod whirls faster than a 1.5 APS dagger with no increased Mod.

Yes, I should have clarified. I bought one with 22% increased Attack speed as a mod.

Updated the leveling Blogpost

Added a fancy Picture to the Guide.

Readded the old Budget Video to the Video section, added a link to the budget Atziri run inside the linked video. (Budgetvideoception)

started doing some T13-15 Bosskill videos on my Perandus Char to put a compilation video together. So far i did Palace Dominus, Wasteland Voll and Excavation all with 100+ Quantity and Packsize.

@Rowen_Edge

Sure 22 aps is godlike, really nice dagger!

Question about flasks:


Even if you are 75% capped do you take that flask? If not, what other flasks do you recommend. Im currently running Ruby/Topaz/Health(not ci yet)/evasion/quicksilver. I also haven't had the currency to get a taste of haste. Any recommendations? I'm capped in lightning, so i'm wondering if I should intentionally leave it off gear since i'm running the flask. Or if I should take a different one. Or leave it fine as is.

the flask is for the max res and the additional effect. never ever try to "cap" your res with a flask. it may be a option to cap in Ele Weakness maps or vs. curses but ALLWAYS be at 75% Res. Like allways. Not capping res is one of the biggest mistakes you can make in PoE.

Alright noted. So can you explain why you take Atziri/granite over quicksilver/tasteofhaste?

i explained the Quicksilver allready some postings ago.

I use a Atziri flask because it costs 1 alc compared to 5ex for ToH.

When i had currency i useed a Taste of Hate.

You can also check the opening post in the Flask section. I took the time to write down my thoughts on Flasks in detail there.

So as we are kinda on the topic:

What do you think about Kiara's Determination?

Having read both - your OP and the quicksilver flask statement - posts, I personally still enjoy playing with one quicksilver flask. The nice thing about Kiara's which made me use it: It get's rid of everything that keeps me from playing my character in a single flask. The onslaught effect is kinda optional to me and I would even run this if it was any other flask base. But since I enjoyed the quicksilver, this is much appreciated for me :)


My current Flask setup

I like the Artwork for Kira but i feel the Duration and Charges stored are to low. I mean the Silver Base is meh allready with only 1 use stored and then they slapped 50% reduced duration on it :-/

I´ll test it for sure but i can´t see myself using it much. But if you can get used to the charge limitation its a good Flask.

Oh and again for the Quicksilver: I don´t say its bad, i just say that i am to clumsy to use it in Bossfights.

For mapping i often use a Quicksilver, i just can´t use it in Uber as a DPS boost, i just end up killing myself because i can´t stick close enough to the target.
I guess 20% move speed could be ok for that i go and buy one of those now.

Edit: Now, not gonna buy one.. wtf 20c... i wanted 5 as Skintrans.. hope it gets cheaper :-(

Hi.

1st of all, im playing on the GARENA servers, so cant link my char here.
Im playing with your build with one little change. I don't have 4th lab still, so I use charge on kill branch. And it's great, I really like it, it's a pleasure to play. Im level 87 now and have 19 lvl of skills, but i've recently noticed 1 problem.
My critical chance is low. I don't have crit chance only on amulet, but I don't crit at all w/o diamond flask or 6 power charges. So, I only start to dps after I was hit once or twice.

This is my skilltree, it is on Russian, but I suppose it can be understand pretty easy.
https://web.poe.garena.ru/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAYCAQceCSANfA5ID6sPxBEvEVARlhXXFe0WvxmKGo8bJSBuIvQkiyaVKgsqOCsKLL8s4TW5O3w9X0GWRnFHBklRSbFLrkyDTLNQMFJTVL1VS1ZjW_RcQF3yX2pfsGHiY0NknWqMbAttGW-ecFJwVnDUdIF3B3mhf8aDCYRvhMWGrocTidOLmYw2j_qQG5MnlS6Wi5eVl_SaE5u1nKSio6LZo6OnK6xmrrOw2LQMtUi4yrk-uW_DOsgUykrQ0ND11ELVudfP2HbZW9vU6QLquutj6_XsGO-I8NXyHfLh9W_22vk3-aT7CQ==

As for items I have, Vagan dagger with 40% base and +23 crit chance, 2 crit rings +25 and +30, but almost no jewels. And btw I have Increased Critical Strikes 20q and CoC 16q. But still i feel like i don't crit at all.

Any ideas?

And 2nd question, how the cyclone crits? For example if I press cyclone 1 time, to the other side of map if it noncrit, does it noncrit for full duration? Or it crit/noncrit for each cyclone mob hit?

Thx alot for help, and sorry for my english:)

After playing this build to endgame, I must say I'm pleasantly surprised. Thought this would just be a hipster version of discharge which could never be as good, but turns out I was wrong. I think this build is actually better than CoC discharge in the following ways:

- Frenzy charges don't get consumed, so you basically have a permanent 16% more damage/attack speed.
- Due to flasks + immortal call + warlord's mark on CWDT, you do even better vs. reflect rares.
- Damage is way better than Discharge without a Voll's amulet.
- With 21/20 gems, damage is very similar to a well-geared CoC discharger.
- Can achieve far more ES than a discharger due to being able to wear a rare chestpiece.
- You freeze all enemies near you, making mapping safer.
- Makes cool sounds when you hit enemies.


I'm currently stting at 12.5k ES, 13k average bladefall DPS, and 15k average EK DPS. My gear isn't optimised yet, so 15k ES and even more DPS is possible.


Gear: