[2.6] TankyTwirl - PhysSpell CoC Cyclone

Did 5 lab runs yesterday ... until i stumbled upon ... now its ok! im really fast at 6 charges with 63% cyclone, 72% EK and about 63% BF crit chance.

But a mate offered me to trade my
against a 5l 3g1b1r one with 300 e/s ... i dont know what to do :S

But meanwhile im trying to jewel this one .. but im not really lucky at it :D

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ZweihundertMorder wrote:

@mrpetrov

You also get 20% MORE chance to evade while not on full ES from the Ascendancy (Shade Form) which alone makes the Evasion pretty strong, combined with Stibnite + Smokecloud blind it´s allready pretty insane, with Jade ontop it should be like 95% chance to evade against allmost any attack in the game while not on full ES.

I will test this a bit once i got my Flasks sorted, i need to switch some effects on it.

I tested this out in-game and I can't see any increase in Evade chance when not at full ES. Is this a bug?

@mrpetrov

Yes its a known Bug. The Display does not change but it does work.

@Fetzi_at

You will have a VERY hard time getting 4 Green 1 Red on a pure ES Base.

@Azazelx53

I said somethings about Poison here on page 47:

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2. Most of the Poison Bladefall Power comes from the damage double dipping with Trap/Mine nodes. You can´t do that as CoC and Bladefall also can´t doubledip on Projectile Damage. Only thing it can do is Area damage and there isn´t much Area Damage on the Tree.

If you would like to play a Poison CoC better go EK and lots of Projectile Nodes.

3. Poison is a DoT and you can´t Leech from a DoT, this build stays alive with lots of Leech, Poison does not help at all.

I get that EK isn´t flashy and stuff, but guys just look at the tooltip. EK is higher than BF, we get EK close to 95% crit chance, its amazing. IT alot more than 20% of the bladefall damage.

I also tested using Poison last league with a Pathfinder Version. It was fun but the Poison DOT wasn´t that impressive and i used Vulnerability on Hit Gloves allready.

I mean it was fun but just wasn´t stronger than the Trickster Version imho.

You can find a Video on the Pathfinder Poison Version on my Youtube Channel.

In that Vidoe i was pretty satisfied with the Poison but overall i felt like its not worth trading the defense of Trickster for some more damage you won´t need 90% of the time.

Ontop of that i failed Uber with the Flaskfinder build, i still don´t know why exactly, but somehow even the Double Vaals where a problem for that build.(Used the Gear from my Trickster Version that could kill Uber Deathless so it wasn´t just a gear question)

@opendreamt9

Feel free to use HoA if you like it better! HoI can cause some Lag on big packs so i totaly understand that part!



@sutasafaia

Reflect was changed, it is no longer a Aura on Rares, ony a local Mod.

The Map Mod still makes all mosnters reflect but you don´t need to run it, most builds have one or two mods thay can´t run or don´t like to run. I mean we can even run Blood Magic Maps as CI build so i guess skipping Phys reflect is just fine.

The reflect on single rares just isn´t a problem for me.

Hello there,

I just wanted to express my gratitude. The guide is super easy-to-follow and the build surprisingly fun :D

I have a question concerning movementspeed on boots:

If I switch my boots for some with movement speed. As far as I understand, Cyclone get more hits off at slow movementspeed and high attack speed or am I wrong here?

Edit: Now that I see your character name, I believe my current chest once belonged to you. TY again for that one (:

Made a good bit of progress last night.

Current gear:


I think it's time to save for a 6 link now, although I may try to get an atziri's splendor and 6 link it myself, and my amulet definitely needs some work, I'd like to get a good spell damage/crit/crit multi amulet but that's going to be expensive.

Currently I'm sitting at 8.4k ES, all resists capped, cyclone 94.59% crit, EK is capped at 95%, and bladefall is at 88.4%.

Love this build man.

Hello again,

I'm trying this build out now and was just wondering why you don't use a Diamond flask? Do you get 90+% crit chance on Cyclone already? Even then, wouldn't it be nice to use one and spec out of some of the dagger crit nodes?

@vt180

Yes that was a chest i used :)

Currently with Trickster Movespeed is really, really good.
What you say about slow move speed getting more hits is a thing from back before Ascendancys when CoC Cyclone could not just recast cyclone all the time because of mana cost.

Now we can recast it really fast with Movespeed and don´t even need mcuh attack speed to get many hits.


@Mythologick

Happy to hear you like it so mcuh, your stats sound really good!

@OMGClayAiken

I am using a Diamond Flask atm, i just forgot to add it in the Flask sektion.

When i wrote this it was end of the league and i was not using a Diamond because i had 95% Crit with Charges up.

During leveling, with no Q on ICS and CoC its really amazing and even later on its a nice DPS boost because 95% + Lucky = 99,99 something Crit Chance.

If you do use Diamond, which flask do you drop out of ruby/topaz/quicksilver?

My current flask setup...




Until I get taste and maybe vinktars

current flask setup


have topaz, ruby, saphire rolled to switch for atziri and extra damage rolls