2.1 LL Whispering Ice! Up to 10,5k ES, 2.2k Int and nearly 17k Avg.Dmg! NEW THREAD UP!

Hey Zahkriisos ! I was planning to play Whispering Ice (Racing reward) for the next league and I found your Post about LL.

That's an awesome idea !

(Guardian/Elem'/Occulist) everything seems good for me but i'm too brainf@cked to think about what should I take.

-Guardian is great AF in team.
-Witch Parts for Solo.

But... I wanted to use Critical ! 7 Power Charges (+1 with occulist maybe) 'Voidbringer'

First idea about SC Passiv'
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMABUINfA_EEQ8RUBNxFkAXLxmKGo8bJR0UHU8dqiBuJLApTyo4LJwtHy9vNbk7fDwFPV9BlkZxRtdHBklRS65Ms1AwUlNV1lcpV5RYrlxrXIpepV9qX7BjQ2SdZOdmVGaea7dtGW-ecLtxhXIPdwd713_GgKSCm4MJhEiExYV9hxOOZI9Gj_qTJ5RvlSCXlZo7m6GbtZykn9-hL6KjpyusmK6zsUK0DLb6uMq5k76KwGbBxcHzwwnDOsNtykrK09Af0NDQ9dWm2RPZW9te34rfsOGI6QLquuv17BjtPO987-vw1fId8uHzEfba96b31_rS-wn-SQ==


(Change Celestial Judgement/Punishment (Templar way) for more ES (Scion/Witch)
(Change some Crit dmg for freeze chance)
Last edited by Maedhlyn#7623 on Feb 25, 2016, 10:20:30 PM
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Maedhlyn wrote:
Hey Zahkriisos ! I was planning to play Whispering Ice (Racing reward) for the next league and I found your Post about LL.

That's an awesome idea !

(Guardian/Elem'/Occulist) everything seems good for me but i'm too brainf@cked to think about what should I take.

-Guardian is great AF in team.
-Witch Parts for Solo.

But... I wanted to use Critical ! 7 Power Charges (+1 with occulist maybe) 'Voidbringer'

First idea about SC Passiv'
Spoiler
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMABUINfA_EEQ8RUBNxFkAXLxmKGo8bJR0UHU8dqiBuJLApTyo4LJwtHy9vNbk7fDwFPV9BlkZxRtdHBklRS65Ms1AwUlNV1lcpV5RYrlxrXIpepV9qX7BjQ2SdZOdmVGaea7dtGW-ecLtxhXIPdwd713_GgKSCm4MJhEiExYV9hxOOZI9Gj_qTJ5RvlSCXlZo7m6GbtZykn9-hL6KjpyusmK6zsUK0DLb6uMq5k76KwGbBxcHzwwnDOsNtykrK09Af0NDQ9dWm2RPZW9te34rfsOGI6QLquuv17BjtPO987-vw1fId8uHzEfba96b31_rS-wn-SQ==


(Change Celestial Judgement/Punishment (Templar way) for more ES (Scion/Witch)
(Change some Crit dmg for freeze chance)


Hey!
Even tho it might look like a good idea going crit with all the new classes being released I sadly have to shatter you dreams right away. :')

You would be wasting too many points picking all the crit and power charges.
Trust me, ur better going non crit thx to this build int.scaling being so insane!

I talked to people with very similar equipt like mine doing crit icestorm and their avg.dmg. was most of the time only 1/2 of mine.

Also with ascendency we will get the new "Elemental Focus" gem and the new keystone "Elemental Overload" which both will increase our non crit dmg by ALOT!


The best classes IMO for Icestorm seam like:


The Guardian (for a more defensive playstyle).

The Occultist (for a 2x curse ascenaths + doedres scorn high dmg. combo + some nice ES; My personal favourite!).

The Scion with Berserker (10% MORE dmg. while we take 5% more and free leech) and Pathfinder (For the nice flask charges, dmg. and def. increase during flask effect).
This class combo would also allow us to drop the life leech gem and add another dmg support!

Hope this are enough reasons to you why to go non crit :P

Cheers, Zahkriisos! :)

Trying to satisfy the whole PoE community is like telling a nymphomaniac to only have sex once in a week.

I think that's fairly accurate. :')
Last edited by Zahkriisos1337#4785 on Mar 3, 2016, 8:17:33 PM
Hey !

I just checked up "Elemental Overload" and "Elemental Focus" (cancel any chance to freeze on crit) so Yes I got enough reasons to go non-crit :D

I'm found of that Low Life build for running 6-7 auras at the same time so... I guess I'll be playing Guardian (Double Faith *_*) if one of my friend want to play PoE again. If not, Berserker seems to be great for droppin' Gem leech as you said.

Removing Vaal Pact (Need Leeching over time), Scion could go Slayer (inc. dmg against rare/unique enemies, leech overkill, stun, cast speed with Leech gem or Berserker)

Berserker + Slayer could be SAVAGE ! :D (Up to 40% Cast Speed)

Inquisitor as a Scion seems great for "Elemental Overload" + "Elemental Focus" + "free chill from ground" (120% cc -> Proc Elemental Overload, Elemental dmg, Consecrated)

After some reflexion... I completely dropped to play as a Witch. (As a non-crit)

But we got 5 days, so I am going to overheat my brain.

Edit : For the Occulist Curse build don't forget : Some Unique n' Rare enemies are Curse Immun' and some Maps are Curse Immun' too.

Friendly,
Maedhlyn
Last edited by Maedhlyn#7623 on Feb 29, 2016, 12:40:24 PM
1.7m dps with conc effect
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Maedhlyn wrote:
Hey !

I just checked up "Elemental Overload" and "Elemental Focus" (cancel any chance to freeze on crit) so Yes I got enough reasons to go non-crit :D

I'm found of that Low Life build for running 6-7 auras at the same time so... I guess I'll be playing Guardian (Double Faith *_*) if one of my friend want to play PoE again. If not, Berserker seems to be great for droppin' Gem leech as you said.

Removing Vaal Pact (Need Leeching over time), Scion could go Slayer (inc. dmg against rare/unique enemies, leech overkill, stun, cast speed with Leech gem or Berserker)

Berserker + Slayer could be SAVAGE ! :D (Up to 40% Cast Speed)

Inquisitor as a Scion seems great for "Elemental Overload" + "Elemental Focus" + "free chill from ground" (120% cc -> Proc Elemental Overload, Elemental dmg, Consecrated)

After some reflexion... I completely dropped to play as a Witch. (As a non-crit)

But we got 5 days, so I am going to overheat my brain.

Edit : For the Occulist Curse build don't forget : Some Unique n' Rare enemies are Curse Immun' and some Maps are Curse Immun' too.

Friendly,
Maedhlyn



Pretty awesome stuff comming soon ehh? :P

I'm also sure that there will be alot more possible things one could do with all of this, we just don't know yet until we test it! :o

About removing VP tho... I prefer to keep it tbh cuz I like instand leech, feels alot safer imo.

And yeh I know the "immune to curse" issue I would face from time to time but shouldnt really be an issue since there aren't really any bosses being immune or extremly resistant (exception would be doedre in core but since she would be perma cursed on hit we should be fine either way...)

Cheers, Zahkriisos!



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Faustooctavo wrote:
1.7m dps with conc effect


You did the calc. on an excel table and this is what you got or is this a question?


Trying to satisfy the whole PoE community is like telling a nymphomaniac to only have sex once in a week.

I think that's fairly accurate. :')
Hey,


Just thinkin' about it : Elemental Overload can't proc with Controlled Destruction without crit chance on stuff. So we got a free Socket.
And Minor fact, we loose the 10% freeze from Hypothermia with Elemental Focus

I'll play as a Guardian !
Last edited by Maedhlyn#7623 on Mar 2, 2016, 9:42:50 PM
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Maedhlyn wrote:
Hey,


Just thinkin' about it : Elemental Overload can't proc with Controlled Destruction without crit chance on stuff. So we got a free Socket.
And Minor fact, we loose the 10% freeze from Hypothermia with Elemental Focus

I'll play as a Guardian !



You still get your core base crit chance at 5%. That should be enough to keep Elemental Overload up close to 100% of the time.

I am just planning to use Elemental Focus in place of Hypothermia and go AOF & CTF.

*I am not an expert by any means, but I saw a streamer confirm that you can not go lower than the 5% base crit chance. I watched Ziggy keep it up 90% of the time with just base 5% crit chance.
Question

I loved testing out this build in normal, but do not play enough to get all the unique items in the temp league starting Friday. This being the case I am planning to play AOF & CTF and go CI.

My question is regarding the Elementalist Class.

1. With Liege of the Primordial if you have one flame golem and one ice golem. Would I get 40% increase damage twice on all my damage since I am AOF/CTF?

2. I am not 100% sure how damage pen works with AOF/CTF. Does cold pen and fire pen do the same thing? Or will only fire pen work?

The main reason I ask is regarding Mastermind of Discord under Elementalist Class. Can I use Flame Dash as a fire skill and get 20% cold pen. Or should I use Lightning Warp as a lightning skill to get the 20% fire pen.


Thanks for any help!
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Maedhlyn wrote:
Hey,


Just thinkin' about it : Elemental Overload can't proc with Controlled Destruction without crit chance on stuff. So we got a free Socket.
And Minor fact, we loose the 10% freeze from Hypothermia with Elemental Focus

I'll play as a Guardian !


It's indeed as HomeOfTheJedi told you.

You CAN'T drop bellow 5% crit. chance via Controlled Destruction! :)



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HomeOfTheJedi wrote:
Question

I loved testing out this build in normal, but do not play enough to get all the unique items in the temp league starting Friday. This being the case I am planning to play AOF & CTF and go CI.

My question is regarding the Elementalist Class.

1. With Liege of the Primordial if you have one flame golem and one ice golem. Would I get 40% increase damage twice on all my damage since I am AOF/CTF?

2. I am not 100% sure how damage pen works with AOF/CTF. Does cold pen and fire pen do the same thing? Or will only fire pen work?

The main reason I ask is regarding Mastermind of Discord under Elementalist Class. Can I use Flame Dash as a fire skill and get 20% cold pen. Or should I use Lightning Warp as a lightning skill to get the 20% fire pen.


Thanks for any help!


You can only summon one golem at a time!
To be able to summon multiple golems you would need to use the new unique axe = having multiple golem will NOT work with this build.

If your plans are to go Elementalist and get Liege Of The Primordial 1st I would recommand you to indeed go CtF + AoF so you get the full fire dmg. bonus out of your flame golem and since you will deal a 100% fire dmg. this should also answere your question about which penetration gem to use! :)

Your welcome! :)

Trying to satisfy the whole PoE community is like telling a nymphomaniac to only have sex once in a week.

I think that's fairly accurate. :')
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Zahkriisos1337 wrote:

You can only summon one golem at a time!


Wow, I can't believe I forgot about that. Thanks for the info!


Anyone think of a better option than Elementalist for a CTF/AOF & CI?

- With Liege of the Primordial you get 40% dmg increase + 20% for flame golem bonus getting doubled.
- Pendulum of Destruction is 100% dmg increase 40% of the time. Can not be counted on as an immediate damage boost, but it is always on.
- Mastermind of Discord gives 20% fire pen if you are moving around with lightning warp.

So with Elementalist you get 20% fire pen, 60% increase dmg, and 100% increased dmg 40% of the time.

Any other class you see that is purely better for damage?

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