[2.1] FROSTBITE - Fast paced, High DPS, Strong Defenses Frostblades build

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junaum wrote:

Sorry for that. Terrible mistake. I forgot to replace the old URL from the earlier build.

It's fixed now. Both, shielded and dual wield version's are intended to be Vaal Pact based.

thank you for the update my friend. how do you feel about this ?

does it feel more safe now ?

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Balantakos wrote:

I'll better wait when you get the final form of the build.
you will put it on title right? (Final Build) and sh*t like that :P

I´ll probably just give an update here, within the thread. But I believe I'm very close to the final Form. Vaal Pact will certainly become part of the build. Minor fine tuning might come. I just need to run a couple of high level maps (78+) and then I'll be satisfied. Have tested it at 76 and 77 maps by now (but without hard mods).

I believe that most of what I could do for progression is now relying on gear alone. Perhaps, getting more life.

I believe you could work from the current tree and gameplay suggestions without fearing any kind of big changes from now on. Just minor fine tuning.

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azamantes wrote:

how do you feel about this ?
does it feel more safe now ?

Yes. It surely does. But it´s also more self awareness intensive. T

With Vaal Pact you can´t rely on regen to keep yourself at acceptable life levels. You must keep a keen eye over your life and debuffs (such as bleed). At dangerous moments, quick flask usage might be decisive. There is also Stun/freeze: you'll be relying on leeching to stay alive so, getting stunned/freezed is a problem. Have an anti-freeze flask is paramount, and don´t ignore "reduced stunned duration" on gear - it helps.

That said, instant leeching combined with high critical rate is a very, very solid way to face tank pretty much all trash mobs. Just stay alert for those "explode after death" mobs and alike. Bosses will always demand some quick thinking, specially on high level maps.

tried to make a ranger version, with more life to try make it hardcore but i dunno if its efficient.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-73p9dUju7g72o_66PeKjivzFFSC74yP2txctgwkzxKJNko19gOEZtNE2lwYwfOJevqdqk-IsGYoF-TiWZU1M_8M6mya9Nk4qQzEqOCSLMgFHfiPT2sEPq7IZhNlvJ3TtFr_PegHcL8yaagUtdf0mlWHrd-PBgnrvhG9h4npTqW5AoFVLwBrAv4w2eA2plQSHidO18gz3j5lwUjWSrK8yTioL_o_YvV3yTeMOSCsKplcRlhEvOuGQGwce62NwVpUuNj2aE_DVnarb1I_6SVFsjOv1YqzDCbmT8h1RR-dUJP3_3g==

What would you leave out on a 5 link? I have a 6 socket, but going to be a bit before I can gather enough fusings for a 6. Good guide; I so far like leveling with LS compared to Reave. Reave is one of those skills that never really clicked for me.

How often are you dying with this build? In the video you linked you seem extremely squishy.

I ran this build myself with dual wield Bino's+Doryani's, 5L Coil and some lower level gems. Overall DPS after power charges for Lightning Strike is about 75k. Survivability is awful for DW (VP version) too. If I don't get damage in asap to enemy targets to steal life, I'll die quickly. I should have gone for the shield version, even if it's a DPS hit I think it is better in the long run. But feels too glass cannon for me.

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Ricardo47 wrote:

tried to make a ranger version, with more life to try make it hardcore but i dunno if its efficient.

Let me know how much Life you got from that tree. That´s interesting.

At the current stage, and without some testing, I´m not sure if we´ll have enough points to keep Crit LS efficient while heavily investing in life. It´s kind of a dangerous trade-off.

But I also plan to make some testing on that matter by:

• Dropping the Flaying and Fencing node group;
• Adding points to "Revenge of the Hunted", "Thick Skin" and "Armour, evasion and life" groups;

The Build would then look like this.

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JoeODanger wrote:

What would you leave out on a 5 link? I have a 6 socket, but going to be a bit before I can gather enough fusings for a 6. Good guide; I so far like leveling with LS compared to Reave. Reave is one of those skills that never really clicked for me.

I´m not in front of my computer right now to confirm this, but I believe a 5L set could drop Weapon elemental damage.

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Kodiak97 wrote:

How often are you dying with this build? In the video you linked you seem extremely squishy.

At first, a lot. But not anymore.

The build relies on attacks to keep you alive, while not packing a remarkable life pool. It demands a significant amount of awareness and skill.

I plan to work on the resilience department as well. Please, check the first reply on this post.

But that specific video was featuring the use of Blood Rage, which is a very advanced way to play with this build. It´s glass cannon mode (to achieve 300k+ dps). Being a physical DOT debuff, Blood Rage will suck your life out while you wear an Abyssus Helmet, and there is no reasonable solution for that. That´s my bad - next video will feature a non BR approach. I might also edit the OP to reflect that aspect (By excluding Max dps with Blood Rage, and removing it´s recommendation completely). In that video, I also face-tanked a dual boss encounter on a level 75 map - which is stupid, but was specifically used to display Vaal Pact functionality (for those who are not fully aware of it´s benefits).

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reciprocate wrote:

I ran this build myself with dual wield Bino's+Doryani's, 5L Coil and some lower level gems. Overall DPS after power charges for Lightning Strike is about 75k. Survivability is awful for DW (VP version) too. If I don't get damage in asap to enemy targets to steal life, I'll die quickly. I should have gone for the shield version, even if it's a DPS hit I think it is better in the long run. But feels too glass cannon for me.

Sorry to hear that Bro. As stated before, this is a dangerous build to play. Which I actually find fun. Anyway, let me know your level and please, link your gear. Maybe there is some insight we could give to help you out. Aside from using the Shielded approach, make sure you play without Blood Rage until you feel confident enough to trigger it (As stated on this post before, Blood Rage is extremely dangerous, and not required to get the build going).

Thanks for the reply. I think i'm going to give this build a go. How essential is a Quality lightning Strike to playing this build?

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Kodiak97 wrote:

Thanks for the reply. I think i'm going to give this build a go. How essential is a Quality lightning Strike to playing this build?

My LS is still level 18, and has no quality. The build works fine without it. Yet, piercing from quality sounds cool! If you can afford that, go for it.

Hey, I've tried your build up to level 75, and DPS seems alright, but survival seems lackluster. I tried to respec the tree for a dual wield sword focused build, could you look at my tree and my items to tell me how to improve? Much appreciated! My IGN is Klytta in SC talisman, any help would be cool :D

Passive tree: https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwQAAAYAXgIRAycFLQVmBbUGIAaiCC4JWA2NEdUTUBR1FewV9hfcGNsZjiFgIuoj9iSdJP0ppS5TMHw17zfUOu1DMUSeRNJHfkkPTP9NklFHU7tW-leXWHVei2BBYlpieWNwZU1vJ3SgdO108XfXeu99dYFBg72E2YrwjX2Nv5pqo4qj57kdvTa-p7_VwYvDOsqQzerPCtNv037T_NRS1ljYYNrB26fd5-Cf51To1ulG6xTtP-2D7g7vevzF_rr_3g==?accountName=Nermango&characterName=Klytta

Items: https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nermango/characters