(2.6) Demopolos' Ultimate Facebreaker: 6L Shield Charge (500k) or Cyclone (1.4m) w/ 4L Warchief

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demopolos wrote:

Yep, since all boss fights just last a few secs (outside of guardians/shaper), the flasks are super important. Against t15 bosses/izaro, lion's really IS a "35% more" mod. You can definitely do without taste (especially on league), lion's is much more important. If I were you I'd get lion's + a good basalt with armour % in place of your rumis/life flask. That will be a huge boost.

Really since your gear is pretty good, it's just about sniping that next big upgrade (whether it's shield/ammy/boots). You really should just buy whatever you can get the biggest increase in stats for the lowest cost, since all of yours are decent but easily upgraded with a couple ex and some time.

Upgrade order to 20/20 for you should probably be blood rage > anything left on 6L > anything left on warchief 4L > both increased durations.

Hope this helps!

Thanks again mate. Found a 34% Lion's Roar for now, bought a decent jewel to get over 6k health. With Conc Effect, Hatred+Herald+Fire Golem bring me to 21k per attack, and I'm at 2.5 unbuffed attacks per second. Both flasks and warchief to 39k. No onslaught for Izaro but that still seems pretty decent to me (though pretty far off from your 500k - I'm in the mid-100s I think!)..

Agree that it'll just be about finding the upgrade at this point. I have approx 7ex worth of chaos and exalted orbs right now. Luckily got my body armour for just 2+one to roll lightning resist onto it.

I just did, for example, a Xoph breachstone and it took me quite a bit of time and skilled play (popping breaches/killing high health ads to recharge flasks) to get him down. Probably wasn't getting enough out of my totem though.

@demopolos

hey man long time fan of your build,
I am kind of at a crossroad right now, and Im not quite sure how i can push my gear to do as much damage as yours.

with herald of ash, hatred, and flame golem im at about 11,977 avg damage, and my shield charge gem is lvl 19.


i feel like for the amount of gear I have, i should be pumping much more damage out.

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sknabi wrote:

@demopolos

hey man long time fan of your build,
I am kind of at a crossroad right now, and Im not quite sure how i can push my gear to do as much damage as yours.

with herald of ash, hatred, and flame golem im at about 11,977 avg damage, and my shield charge gem is lvl 19.


i feel like for the amount of gear I have, i should be pumping much more damage out.

Hey man! I just took a look, and I wouldn't say you are at a "crossroads". Actually you have a solid basic set up, with many many incremental gains that all together will give a massive boost to your DPS. In general it is just about working towards the "ideal" items in the guide, and doing this by always buying the "most efficient" upgrade you can snipe.

Can you tell me your SC damage and attacks per sec with conc effect + auras + golem + frenzy charges + warchief + flasks? This is the number you should look at as it represents what you are dealing vs bosses most of the time.

At a glance, here are things you can do to improve your character:
-(biggest issue) You are missing 20% "more damage, 15 % radius, and -50% reflect dmg from the 2 ascendency points you lack! Go crush uber lab for a massive gain, you have what you need!
-Make sure you are swapping in conc effect for bosses (this is the only place you should feel your damage lacking anyway with your numbers).
-(losing huge dps here) Get all of your gems to 20/20 in roughly this order, blood rage > 6L > 4L warchief > inc duration. You can trade lvl 20/0 gems to a vendor along with a gcp to get a 1/20. They get to 18/20 in just 1 play session of mapping, so you have nothing to lose! For most of these gems, you are literally losing out on a 10% inc damage or 10 % inc attack speed mod. This is a giant waste.
-Get uber lab rolls on helm (sc dmg/speed), boots (attack speed on kill), and gloves (one of the ones that scales off phys dmg, there are a few)
-Upgrade to jewels with 4x good mods eventually
-Get taste of hate over basalt for more dps (not mandatory in league since taste isn't as efficient, but does give big dps boost vs bosses)
-Reroll to 55-64 life on shield
-Get 35 str / 19-20 cold meginord (every little bit of life/dmg counts)
-get 15/25 atziri flask (1% "more" is something...)
-Save up for "big" upgrades to gg rare ammy (similar with life), shield (some combo of bigger armour/life/block), and boots (eventually get armour version, ideally with t1 life)
-Keep leveling! This is a ton of missing life...

This should give you plenty to work on! There's tons of room for growth.

What will be better, SC 15% atk speed or 40% dmg?

Hello,

You seem to have zero chaos resistance? How do you deal with all the chaos damage?

Thanks in advance. Love the build.

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anbugz wrote:

What will be better, SC 15% atk speed or 40% dmg?

Both are great... attack speed might be slightly more overall dps depending on your balance between phys/speed in tree and gear. The real difference is this: attack speed is more clear speed (get around the map faster with quicker SC cooldown), but sc damage is easier on your mana pool (if your dps isn't high enough yet to fully take advantage of your mana leech). Really 40 % damage and 15 % speed are both great... if you self-roll either just keep it and use. Personally, with endgame build I'd hunt for speed for even faster t15 farm.

This has been asked a bunch of times so I will add to OP if it's not already there when time permits.

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hitotsuki wrote:

Hello,

You seem to have zero chaos resistance? How do you deal with all the chaos damage?

Thanks in advance. Love the build.

The chaos damage just really isn't a problem with the 7k + life we achieve at endgame (and is mostly fine with the 6k we get earlier on). We are regenerating 38% of our life pool a second thanks to slayer, and no chaos damage in game that I know of (or have experienced) 1 shots us. We have atziri flask for over 9 seconds of 35% chaos res vs bosses, which is plenty once you have your life pool.

Happy you're enjoying the build man!

There have been a lot of requests for an uber lab video, so I finally made one tonight:

Uber lab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO97Rduc1oY

It wasn't a particularly good run (I didn't know layout going in), but you should be able to get a feel for how the build performs on lab. 5.5 minute runs are definitely doable with tight play.

Thought i'd do a quick reply to say thanks to op and everyone else that's contributed in this thread with such a wealth of information and a really solid and well thought out build.

I tried a few different duelist builds for breach and ended up on this one as I already had a few pieces of gear that could fit and it's taken me up to guardians with minimal issues in my quest to complete the atlas. The shield charge variant is just a monster for safe speed farming high maps.

Fantastic build for uber lab too. Very safe, 'forgiving', powerful and efficient.

thanks very much :)

Do you have two sets of 6L? like one for Shield charge and other for Cyclone.

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demopolos wrote:

There have been a lot of requests for an uber lab video, so I finally made one tonight:

Uber lab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO97Rduc1oY

It wasn't a particularly good run (I didn't know layout going in), but you should be able to get a feel for how the build performs on lab. 5.5 minute runs are definitely doable with tight play.

I just ran it today after seeing your video, I literally wrecked those poor guys Argus and Izaro! XD Izaro nearly couldn't hit me in the last fight, I didn't imagine that this build was so amazing for uber lab, atlas objectives, league challenges... :)

(ps: I had just near 6k life)