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Thought I would let you know that i'm doing a similar build to yours although I'm built around this staff in standard. I either use voll chest + discharge or any other chest including legacy lightning coil + shocknova + arc. Once I 6L this, the 6th link will be a level 3 empower boosting the COC gems to lvl 26 for insane damage. Big difference though is i'm using a ring with cold attack damage to proc EE, and 2 seperate vengeance 4L with ele weakness and assas mark. Just cyclone into a group with the discharge and a single discharge is all it takes to blow up the entire screen. Purity of lightning and a topaz are all that's needed to be immune to the damage with vaals pact, LL gem and doryani lightning belt.

I made my build like this to make killing bosses very fast since as far as I know EE isn't reduced by bosses like curses are.

That staff is awesome! Did you put points into accuracy as it doesn'thave "hits can't be evaded" mod?

I wonder about the consistent damage with this staff without accuarcy. It should hit like a truck if it hits.

Do you also include Ice Nova in your build?
If include Ice Nova you get a damage advantage of 69%, assuming a 100% hit chance, which you don't have.
To go even with this staff and a lv26 Arc, lv26 Shock Nova and lv25 Ice Nova you need at least 59% accuracy. I don't know how monster's evasion chance is evluated and if bosses have a higher evasion chance. Assuming they don't that's the number you must at least aim for.

However it seems you don't use ice nova. You would still get a damage advantge of 14% over eragon's build, assuming a 100% hit chance and the same crit chance. To break even you need a 87.7% hit chance.

That doesn't factor in Shock Nova's bad dmg effectiveness of 50% compared to Arc's and Ice Nova's 70%.
So the more spell dmg there is on your gear the worse your damage becomes compared to eragon's.

The interesting aspect however is EE with the frost damage from your ring. For regular mobs with low resistances, eragon's build would have the advantage. However for bosses with high resistances yours is a lot better.
I wonder if adding EE to eragon's build yould be worth it. Does anyone know the activation order of Arc, Shocknova and Ice nova?


Of course your gear based survivability should be a lot better. But you also have to factor in the freeze chance of Ice Nova, but you should still slightly win in this area.

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rupture55 wrote:

That staff is awesome! Did you put points into accuracy as it doesn'thave "hits can't be evaded" mod?

I wonder about the consistent damage with this staff without accuarcy. It should hit like a truck if it hits.

Do you also include Ice Nova in your build?
If include Ice Nova you get a damage advantage of 69%, assuming a 100% hit chance, which you don't have.
To go even with this staff and a lv26 Arc, lv26 Shock Nova and lv25 Ice Nova you need at least 59% accuracy. I don't know how monster's evasion chance is evluated and if bosses have a higher evasion chance. Assuming they don't that's the number you must at least aim for.

However it seems you don't use ice nova. You would still get a damage advantge of 14% over eragon's build, assuming a 100% hit chance and the same crit chance. To break even you need a 87.7% hit chance.

That doesn't factor in Shock Nova's bad dmg effectiveness of 50% compared to Arc's and Ice Nova's 70%.
So the more spell dmg there is on your gear the worse your damage becomes compared to eragon's.

The interesting aspect however is EE with the frost damage from your ring. For regular mobs with low resistances, eragon's build would have the advantage. However for bosses with high resistances yours is a lot better.
I wonder if adding EE to eragon's build yould be worth it. Does anyone know the activation order of Arc, Shocknova and Ice nova?


Of course your gear based survivability should be a lot better. But you also have to factor in the freeze chance of Ice Nova, but you should still slightly win in this area.

First of all, if you pick Volls Devotion / Volls Armour for 50 ex, it's way better to use Vagan dagger, as you will have perm ~85-90% resistances. But you lose on survivability. Without Volls amulet, using discharge is pointless as you lose every charge. 16% more dmg from frenzy charges and 4sec immortal call from CWDT.

Running Res aura means you are immune to reflect but lose mana leach and i dont see you (@Impl) have anything else to sustain cyclone other than Elreon rings. Putting more weight on gear requirements to cap resistances and life and everything else. Not talking Ice ring (lightning -> ice) means from start you are left with -1 Jewelery.

As to survivability i think my build is MILES better considering:
- possible 51% LESS dmg reduction
- 30% LESS ele dmg reduction
- perm 4 Endurance for CWDT 4 Sec Immortall call
- 65% chance to proc spells - higher leach frequency
- Perm freeze on most things (Ice Nova is superior here)

To EE, no it wont be worth it. Ice Nova herself is not best scaling spell as Discharge is.

To +3 lvl gems also dont think it's worth it. Supporting them with empower means you lose one spell, have to invest a lot into spell dmg on tree, lose leech frequency, lose accuracy and spells proc chance so even less leech frequency and dmg consistency.

For me @Impl build is more of a glass cannon. I would not trade my survivability for minor upgrade to dmg.

EDIT. Calculated proc chance for the 59% accuracy you provided. It's 40%. Only 2/5 hits would proc CoC. With Volls Protector and Discharge at lvl 26 its indead around 15% dmg increase but at expense of huge amount of Exalts investment and almost complete loss in survivability :S

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negusmaster wrote:

Looking to respec a level 80 scion in 2.1
Just have some quick questions:

1. How will we generate frenzy charges? (tree has a +1 frenzy charge)
2. Could you post a level 80 tree? (Not sure which nodes to drop)
3. How do you run HoI, Blasphemed Warlord's and Assassin's, AA? (HoI is also 132% mana from Cull and Innervate)
https://poe.mikelat.com/#6S2i1h/TJbLJd/nwYIqj/DGXOWFd (HoT and HoA as substitutes for the Blasphemed Curses)

Edit: I think AA would be dropped because it only is reduction when standing still, we are constantly cycloning / moving. Correct?

This is the tree i would probably take at ~80 lv.
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Reservation nodes solve you the problem of Enlighten gem till you get better gear (you can pick this or drop culling strike till your gear can support it).
Reservation explained:
3 x 25% curse auras + 32% Herald of Ice
Using Mikelat's aura calc with reservation nodes cost will be:
HoI 29%
Curse auras 21%
3 x 21% + 29 = 92% reserved. Leaving you with average 42-48 mana left after buff in 2.1.
With Rallyin Cry you will have more than enough sustainability to cyclone (Before you get BM staff).

As to Frenzy charges there are few options based on gear you happen to have:
1) Blood rage - simplest
2) Ice bite in place of culling strike (requires Enlighten)
3) Poachers mark in place of Enfeeble (if you dont mind losing some survivability)
4) Frenzy - mby someone will think its good idea >_> ?
5) Blood dance - with "very good" gear to compensate lost resistances from ring (need curse Deodre ring then)/boots + Curse nice curse

Ill pick option 1), pretty lazy solution but if i happen to get some nice gear ill probably switch to BD or gotta go Ice Bite.

Simply question, Is this build viable to Atziri, and Uber Atziri?...

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Madasan wrote:

Simply question, Is this build viable to Atziri, and Uber Atziri?...

Had to be sure how Blasphemy works before answering this question.

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@Vipermagi Was kind enough to provide me with most important info needed.

Is it viable to kill Atziri ? Yes.
Is it viable to kill Uber ? No. Why ? It would require a lot of investment into generic discharge build. And it was not my intention to do so with it.

PS. for Atziri alone i would swap ARC for something else. Maybe Flame surge ?

Two last questions before we jump into the new league.

1) How do you get the required 155 INT for the Nova skills?

2) What would you use as second 6-link setup?

Cheers,
A 2H Staff CoC Nova Fan

How would you start of with this build in 2.1?
A gg staff + cocs will probably only start later in game.

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against0815 wrote:

Two last questions before we jump into the new league.

1) How do you get the required 155 INT for the Nova skills?

2) What would you use as second 6-link setup?

Cheers,
A 2H Staff CoC Nova Fan

1) 30 int from gear

2) Second ? If you mean chest, links are described on guide page.

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How would you start of with this build in 2.1?
A gg staff + cocs will probably only start later in game.

Well you dont need GG staff. only 8.5% crit. When you acquire enough currency you can upgrade it further. ( just dont craft further something crappy - look for stats in section "How to craft GG staff)

Ill run generic cyclone build before transition to CoC. Scion has terrible quest rewards for anything else and i dont want to roll 2 characters just for gems.

But it would be nice to have some starter gems like fire trap and fire totem from mara/shadow. Pity Searing Bond is Marivel reward.

Interesting build , but this kind of staff will be very hard to get and without "hits cant be evaded" this build does not work anymore , am i right ?