MoreRain: Life&ES CoC Discharge [2.2]

I'm having a hard time fighting bosses, I don't leech enough (with warlords mark + leech gem) to facetank them (maalformation boss for exaample) with flasks. is this normal?

First of all I would like to thank you for the time you guys take to read my comments and answer them. I hope you don't find me too annoying but i fell like there is something there to clarify. I might have bunch of other questions about how to tweak the build to squeeze the maximum out of it since i'm currently testing and playing around with items/tree. So, I was wondering if it would be more appropriate to schedule a moment to chat in game or via ts/skype or something instead of filling the forum thread with my questions? This post will be quite long and it just 1 of my ideas so I hope you guys having as much fun reading my suggestion as I have trying to make them. Otherwise, feel free to tell me and i'll try my stuff on my own side and stop bothering you <3 !

Anyway one of my idea would have been to change maligaroes for facebreaker (I hope you love maths)
We would trade 25dex/5% as/50% crit chance/50% crit multiplier (20ex)
With 90% crit multiplier (20c)
It might seems a bit like a wasted slot bot I think you get WAY more benefit from the xtra 40% multiplier and heres the maths I went through ( I thought about this at work brake, i'm taking this way too seriously :P):

Attack speed:
Tested in game 5% attack speed gives me 0,11 aps with a royal skean might be less if you use another dagger.
That mean 9s of hitting a mob to get 1 xtra attack. This attack, have only 70% chance to proke discharge so 9sx1.30 = 12s in average to get 1 xtra discharge (consider it 100% dmg)

Multiplier:
My tooltip on my cyclone said 3.03 aps but my dagger have only 1.45 aps (0% xtra attack speed)
Now, let take our 12s calculated in the other example 12s x 3.03 aps = 36 attacks. In these 36 attacks only 70% can proke discharge so same thing happen 36/1.3=27.7 discharges.
You said in a previous post that discharge crit was calculated b4 pcharge consumption. So, I went in game removing my maligaros to see that my discharge and cyclone have 95% crit chance anyway (50% crit chance being useless) on 7 power charges.
Then, we take our 27.7 discharge x 0,95 = 26.3 crit discharge. If we now take the xtra 40% multiplier from facebreaker that would mean 26.3 x 40% xtra dmg on every crit discharge = 1052% dmg. Would be even higher if the person got 1.7 aps on dagger and attack speed jewels which i don't.

Conclusion: Facebreaker would give us around 10 times (maybe more) xtra dps than maligaros virtuosity if my calculations are right.

I might have done a false calculation somewhere to get to this result so if anybody good maths feel free to correct me but that is what I thinked about.

Btw, if you want MatrixFactor or d3sden0va contact me in game to clarify some points that would be very awesome. I play between 11:00 - 14:30 on UTC -4 from monday to thursday and free to come anytime the fridays. My IGN is hytotermia so feel free to add me and poke me when i'll come online.

This build good for hc?

Are mana on hit jewels even relevant anymore with this op enchant?

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Natchorx wrote:

re: Facebreaker vs Malis

I'm currently using Facebreakers and liking them. I hit crit cap with charges up already so I don't need malis for additional crit. I'd also consider using Shadows and Dust since S&D and FB both got a crit multi boost but Malis didn't (especially on Perandus where S&D are easy to get and Legacy Malis are inaccessible).

Also if you're playing Trickster then Voidbringers become a very attractive option.

Alternatively a strong pair of gloves with attack speed and defensive stats might be a really good option here (better than uniques) because of how well we scale with attack speed. I'd have to do the math on it, but all of the options are good here.

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Ve1zevu1 wrote:

This build good for hc?

I'd recommend using Chaos Innoculation as a Trickster for HC. That seems to be what a lot of people are doing for PHC and there's at least 1 level 100 CI Discharger on PHC.

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Charleyzard wrote:

Are mana on hit jewels even relevant anymore with this op enchant?

I've been able to maintain my mana with just regen and 1 MGoH. This enchant is quite good, but I prefer either 12% ASPD if you've killed recently for mapping purposes or 8% penetration if you haven't killed recently for Bosses (what I'm currently using).


Regarding Blasphemy I'm currently single-curse, using Warlord's mark on CWDT, and PoF, PoL, and Discipline with a level 3 Enlighten in a +1 gems Facebreaker. This gives me plenty of mana to work with, lets me skimp on resists on my gear to get near capped chaos resist and good life and ES.

I can sustain a 5l with no mana issues with no elreon jewellery and no mana on hit jewels with that enchant. My unreserved mana pool is 90.

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Natchorx wrote:

Anyway one of my idea would have been to change maligaroes for facebreaker (I hope you love maths)

I made a DPS calculator that's linked to in OP. I haven't updated it since 2.0 so BV isn't supported. In order to account for BV you can just increase the number of hits your "2nd spell" does per cast. Set it to like 5-6 since that's how many times a single cast of BV will hit a target. Not exactly correct but it should be approximately fine. Then just change the atk speed vs crit multi.

How are acuitys for this build?

Can likely ddrop vaal pact and have 6 points to put somwhere else.

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Charleyzard wrote:

How are acuitys for this build?

Can likely ddrop vaal pact and have 6 points to put somwhere else.

Well, you need the jewel socket anyway so really its more like only 1 point saved.
Also, vaal pact is for all leech and not only crits one so that's a little bit better but u lose life regen so probably come back to the same point.
Third, acuity will make you lose a lot of dps for some defensive stats but if defense is the issue good rolled rare could be a better option.
Not mentionning the price.

Does anyone have a 2.2 scion tree?