[2.1] petit's Witch Summoner Support / Carry IN-DEPTH STYGIAN REVENANTS Quad+ CURSE

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Ranmaz wrote:

Hi Petit,

Would you be able to provide your detail thoughts on proc spell choice. FireStorm vs Ball of Lightning.

Currently I use firestorm, because I can stay at a far distance if need be, and the procs are instant to the area.

But I've noticed that a lot of curse/rev summoner's prefer Ball of Lightning.

Ball Lightning can go deeper through packs, as long as there are no obstacles.

Say you're seeing melee stuff with ranged monsters in the back, they will also be cursed which definitely helps. Firestorm won't reach the stuff in the back unless you cast it again or if they run through it.



Firestorm will only be better
- if you want something cursed instantly --> Bosses?
You won't have to wait for the Ball lightning to travel.
- there are obstacles everywhere (rocks, walls etc.)


Ball lightning has 0.10 faster cast time over Firestorm but requires one point in Avatar of Fire (nothing much you can get with 1 Point)

About reapplying curse on monsters with Firestorm, sure it's better, but my Temporal chain lasts 14 seconds + and other curses even longer.

Oh yeah I guess I was referring to a whispering ice setup.

CoH + temp, eleweak, conduc, enfeeble, + Enhance.

or 6L

Coh + temp, eleweak, conduc + enhance.

Enhance has a very large impact on temp chains which is in turn multiplied by curse effectiveness, I pretty much run this on my own summoner you really can't beat 100% move,cast,atk slow on pretty much anything that is not a map boss and even they are a nonissue.

Only things that kills my minions now are bosses that leave extremely high damage ground effects.

hi
I'm troubled by the ball lighting. Elemental equilibrium (EE) with ball lighting will give enemies 25% lighting resistance. And the main DPS Revs do lighting damage. It's OK? Or there is other message I didn't got?

I am trying to level using your build and am wondering when I should start using minions, a 6L is kind of expensive right now but I do have tabula. Should I run spectres in the 6L and 1 less curse or vice versa? Also if you could do passive progression trees it would be greatly appreciated.

Kinda late answers, been off.

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organic_orange wrote:

hi
I'm troubled by the ball lighting. Elemental equilibrium (EE) with ball lighting will give enemies 25% lighting resistance. And the main DPS Revs do lighting damage. It's OK? Or there is other message I didn't got?

Avatar of Fire keystone converts the damage to Fire.
Yes they do lightning dmg.

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Kalosis wrote:

I am trying to level using your build and am wondering when I should start using minions, a 6L is kind of expensive right now but I do have tabula. Should I run spectres in the 6L and 1 less curse or vice versa? Also if you could do passive progression trees it would be greatly appreciated.

I used the minions as soon as I got access to the Revenants. Breezed through the whole game. That was before the nerf, but I'm sure that it is still viable. You might still need to hang on to whatever leveling skills you're using. I did had trouble in Cruel Act 3 and used the Flame Ribbons for a bit.


The multiple curse are just a way of getting more damage. You can self-cast a curse if you're missing the second 6L.

6th link for spectre is Slower proj (soon to be Controlled Destruction) so it's like -60% ish resist vs 28% ish more damage. Self-casting a curse will slow down the runs by a bit.

It's up to you.


Passive progression --> I think i got some spell dmg from the start of witch cuz i was leveling with firestorm flame totem then you just grab whatever are the closest minion nodes (get spectre first) then you work your way to the remaining ones while grabbing life nodes.

you said that u can do every map mod, so does that also include elemental reflect? wont the revenants die there instantly?

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wennilein wrote:

you said that u can do every map mod, so does that also include elemental reflect? wont the revenants die there instantly?

It's definitely do-able, but you might have to use less curse / support gems and pop Bone Offering for most packs. Mixed with -Max resist, you'll have to remove more damage modifiers.

Your spectres won't die instantly. Maybe like 3-4 + bursts (if they all hit) into a pack with -200 resist Wrath aura will kill them.


Gems you might wanna switch :

Wrath
Conductivity
Elemental Weakness


Light penetration
Slower projectile


What you could use:

Purity of lightning
Faster projectile
Life leech *you would have to chrome
Warlord's Mark / Poacher's mark

Updated for [2.1]

Putting a leveling section in a bit.

Hi Petit!

What's your guess on a low life approach instead of a curse one? I have a GG shav with colours 2r 2b 2g, do you think it can be saved?

Hey, it would be awesome if you could do a section where you show us where to spent the passive points (ex. 1-20, 20-40, 40-60 etc.)

Also why aren't you using Skeletons?

And do you use raise zombies only after you get the revenants as spectre?