[Outdated] Zivko's CI Chaos Incinerate build - 200k dps / 10 000 ES
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RF as in righteous fire without any changes to skill tree (still being CI?)?
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Yes, Righteous fire. Check the video, i respeced out of CI, its not meant to be sustained, its a temporary buffed used only till vaals are dead. With LL gem and Atziri's promise, its possible to outleech the degen, but if vaals are not dead before they start dealing damage it becomes very dangerous and dispell burning flask should be used to end it.
Last edited by ogrec#7939 on Aug 9, 2015, 6:23:58 AM
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So after using this build for about 2 days here are my observations:
Most of the current builds are playable from a certain point. Before that they simply suck. So unless you follow them exactly the way OP described, have exactly the items and gems (lvls and quality) you will fail. This one is different and its a mark of a good build. You can lvl with it, you can have worse gear and gems and it will still just work. Its newbie friendly but also have lots of room for advanced players to tweak it up. Hell, you can even sleep with it, its that good. You did it again ogrec. Some things that came up to my during the play with the build: I: Use this 2 defensive setups for an end game content: lvl 1 cwdt + lvl 5 20q warlords (lowest proc lvl possible) for 2% leech and 32% chance for endu charge on slain (non quality warlords will also do) cwdt + immortall call (around 1,1k dmg taken proc) Eye of Chayula is a must have and should be placed in the "build enabling uniques" section. II: Quality gems. Great to have: 20q incinerate for its increased range (with OP's given tree whole screen will be covered), 20q lmp or 20q gmp for 10% cast speed as cast speed is a nice dps boost for this spec. IMO: 20q gmp + 20q iron will > 20q lmp + empower lvl 3 for general mapping and farming. Way more clear speed this way and mana cost is about the same. Remember that tooltip DPS ingame is per projectile. If LMP is involved you simply multiply tooltip DPS by 12 (4 times because of 100% more dmg per stage and 3 times for each projectile). When GMP is at work tooltip DPS must be multiplied by 20 giving around 200k DPS AOE with crap gear. So anything with around 10k tooltip is allready good. To make my self clear - we're talking about potential AOE DPS in crowds, vs single target like bosses you must know that only 1 projectiles will hit due to the shotguning changes. Still, with only 10k tooltip, GMP and 20q incinerate clearing speed on maps is amazing. For end game content (and HC) triple leech engine is a must: 1: 2% life leech gem 2: 2% warlords mark from cwdt setup 3: 2% atziris flask Giving 6% of instant leech. Also Vaal Discipline. Atziri flask + Vaal Discipline are a nice "o shit buttons". III: Fine tuning. If u manage to get your hands on a 6link Mantle (or even better +1 6link mantle) get more mana regen to be able to use 20q gmp/lmp + lvl3+ empower + faster casting. Same goes for 20q gmp + lvl3+ empower on a 5link. More mana regen can be done via +mana and mana regen from gear and +more mana from tree (take soul siphon path insteed of quickness in a shadow area, also while having overall more mana you can level clarity up to 20) This needs to be carefully implemented though, to ensure you stay above 35% mana treshold all the time. During the fights often procs from warlords mark and its 2% mana leech will also help with this. Get other usefull gems to 20 quality: 20q faster attack + 20q whirling blades for extreme fast movement speed 20q fortify for increased fortify duration Use increased duration in cwtd + ic setup if u manage to roll 3 reds somewhere on your (mostly) int gear. Craft your self a sexy ES helmet and shield with lots of ES and spell dmg (shield). You can use Rathpith Globe as a shield if u fail to get a better one. Reroll The Consuming Dark if its low on spell dmg (roll range is 40-60). Use sexy jewels. Latest guides: 3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155 3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608 3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362 Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Aug 10, 2015, 3:28:43 AM
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I am pretty sure shotgunning doesn't work and only 1 projectile can hit the enemy.
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BTW:Could you do some calculations with 6L Incinerate with highest mana cost of skill gem setup+your passive tree?
I want to optimize my mana regen and mana so I don't have to overdo it. |
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Hi guys, wanted to share some updates on what I've done to up my DPS and clear speed.
First of all, I gave up on trying to get a 5l +1 corrupted, it got really frustrating bricking a lot of mantles so I decided to see what I could do with what I had. Here's what I came up with. http://imgur.com/fZNuaXZ,g5d82qG These are my dps stats on both a 5l and a 6l mantle. Now regarding sustaining mana costs. I've stuck to my method of using three -8 elreon pieces making incinerate cost a measly 6 mana per cast on a 6l and 3 mana on a 5l. My 6th link is faster projectiles which helps with clearing. Regarding stun, I've opted to use kaom's roots to free up my amulet slot in order to wear an elreon amulet. I move around with whirling blades/lightning warp and it hasn't been slow at all. Note that I use a 20% qual whirling blade and 20% quality faster attacks. My incinerate is level 21/20. And following is the gear I use. The reasoning for the blues is that I use the hidden potential gem for a 75% damage boost. You can replace the belt with the doryani's fire belt if you are short on resists. I've cleared 78 and 79 maps on this char and done atziri countless times. One good thing I've been able to accomplish as well is running no regen map mods. I remove life leech and put in iron will and rely on warlord's for leech along with my amethyst flask. This is very situational of course but it helps if your corrupted map screws you over with that mod. If anyone's interested I can upload a vid of an atziri run or a no regen map. |
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Thoughts on the Vertex Vaal mask? I'm currently using it for Auras because of its +1 to all gems, but it has ~300 ES and ~700 Evasion so it synergizes very well with this build and it can even be used as a poor mans 4L +1 and it has the added benefit of halving the mana cost of the skill you socket in it. Only 1 ex as well.
Last edited by jdotjdot7#6931 on Aug 10, 2015, 12:20:28 AM
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@jdotjdot7
The Vertex is a solid choice if you can cap resists elsewhere. @Hakizo Gz on 6linking your Mantle. I was lucky enough to 6link mantle two times in a past few days. At first I've used about 130 jewelers to 6 socket it, than about 42 fuse to 6link it. Secound one took my about 160 jewelers to 6 socket it and about 17 fusings to 6l it ... Sold both ;) Yes Elreon jewellery helps a lot with maintaining your mana on a 6L and at least one -8 is necessary. @dxmzmx I've made mana regen / cost calculator, so grab this and check it out (also raport any errors if found): Mana regen / cost calculator:
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MS Excel via Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/owmnw633ws3ll2o/mana_regen_calc.xlsx?dl=0 Google docs sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A9uk-6HDRUM4doCo-YV7c2fqw7mrEPKGk5qSo4bjawc/edit?usp=sharing Latest guides:
3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155 3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608 3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362 |
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" This is very wrong.
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" It IS!
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" GMP has far too much mana cost and destroys the damage of the build. LMP is a nice in-between for damage, mana coast and AoE. Unlike what you say:
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" GMP does NOT shotgun anymore and neither does LMP. Enemies can only be hit by 1 projectile now and so to find your DPS you multiply your tooltip DPS by 4 (For the different stages of incinerate). This means that GMP is not a damage booster but instead destroys your damage.
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" A 6L mantle is currently more expensive than a 5L corrupted +1 gems mantle. PoE trade is down atm but I remember pricing this before. For newer players who have little currency, a 6L mantle is out of the question. Most of the rest of what you said is good but don't go confusing people with shotgunning since it was removed in 2.0. |
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@Gimless
I cant entirely agree with you. " Well I can assure you - it is not (except shotguning part). Everything I wrote was from ingame experience with the build. Works like a charm. " No it does not. Check my mana calculator (also raport any erros if found - thx), you can make it work. GMP + Iron will is about the same cost as LMP + Empower btw (as I wrote above). I think that you're wrong about potential AOE dmg. Yes, with GMP you will loose a few thousand "tooltip" DPS over LMP but you'll have much wider area covered. IMO: 20q gmp + 20q iron will > 20q lmp + empower lvl 3 for general mapping - if you want to have same mana cost - and 20q GMP + empower lvl 3 if you can support it. " Yes "single", "same" enemies. And I was talking about clearing monster packs. As I wrote: "To make my self clear - we're talking about potential AOE DPS in crowds". More projectiles = wider incinerate cone = more monsters will get hit. Shotguning has nothing to do with it. So assuming large enough monster pack 200k area dps with GMP from 10k tooltip is REAL. I was wrong in the vs boss/single target part only. Shotguning single target doesnt exist anymore - I forgot about it thx (edited original post). But in crowds I'll take GMP over LMP any day. Check it your self (with 20q incinerate!) and decide what you like best :) What I can say from ingame experience with GMP is this: I open the ambush box, hold fire button for about 2 seconds and items pops out :) When playing lvl 76-78 beyond map with fracture, I just stand on large packs, holding fire button and watch them burn, from time to time a large beyond boss will pop out, so I use atziri's flask and continue to hold the fire button and watch them die. Why? Because wider incinerate cone with atziris flask and warlord mark gives also insane leech on larger packs. For me the choice is obvious so i recommended it. Every one else can check it out and decide what works best. Latest guides: 3.11 Loki's Rainbownuke: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2904155 3.7 CI CoC Discharge: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2605608 3.7 Juggernaut life Mjolner: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1846362 Last edited by RicoKGB#5871 on Aug 10, 2015, 4:21:33 AM
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