Unique Rebalance for The Awakening

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CliveHowlitzer wrote:

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Zed_ wrote:

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Zhatan wrote:

This legacy XXX is horribly ridiculous. Look at the cesspool that is standard now because of it :(

The worst way of penalising new players ive ever seen. Impossible to get any friend to try this game in a permanent league because of it. :(

Sorry but how does this affect a new player?

The assumption is that all new players will play on Standard league and also will feel an uncontrollable compulsion to only build around legacy items they cannot ever acquire. Thus they will spiral downward into worsening insanity as what they want is always out of reach, only to finally acquire it and then realize it was all for nothing. In the end, they throw themselves into a pit of wild Kiwis to end it all.

The rest of us will just play on the 4 month leagues.

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Xavqwyrus wrote:

how did voidholm and veil of the night not make this list??

they are the two uniques that nobody will ever use. even in a fresh league you're better of using blues 10 levels below you than either of these uniques.

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gesichtspalme wrote:

I really don't get why people cry so much about these changes.. even to the extent that they're saying it will make them quit the game or that it stops new players from trying it.

If you have the items that will be changed, it will not affect your game.
If you don't have the items that will be changed, it will also not affect your game.

What's the problem here?

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Du5chl4mp3 wrote:

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Chouwa wrote:

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Xpartaco wrote:

That's it, I will play temporal leagues only.
Can't believe that prices went up artificially because of a developer change to the system once more.
GGG please add new 4 month leagues, I am out of the system of standard = legacy shit.
Not willing to give all my gameplay time in the form of orbs to other
greedy merchants or farmers botters, or people playing the economy simulator in the forums and in poe trade. I will not have the chance to enjoy the content as it was originally designed but people with legacies and lots of exalts mirrors will. POE its not worth it for me anymore until they put 4 Month leagues.

And at the end of the leagues its the same as standard.

Legacy merchants, you have one less customer providing orbs to the system.
And then they say they want more playerbase.

pffff.

First of all, Mjolner was nerfed in beta from the start almost, we all knew it, at the time it was 30-40 EX. WHICH IS VERY EASY TO OBTAIN IN STANDARD AND MOST PLAYERS THAT REALLY DO PLAY THE GAME, and not cry on forums HAVE. At that point the price started to rise, because greedy people were happy to exploit the possible nerf and get back some of their currency (because some paid a mjolner 100 ex in the past) and others were ready to pay more to risk it going legacy. SO YOU HAD a month TO GET ONE AND RISK IT or to just ignore it. HOW DOES SOMEONE HAVING a legacy ITEM affect your PLAYING? IT DOES NOT, do you play with legacy geared people? NO, you play maps alone or with friends. Do you want to play with a super op broken item, be my guest but farm for it as we all did or chance it or w/e. AND GUESS WHAT, the new Mjolner which will drop will be much cheaper and affordable for those wanted to play the build and try it out, at less risk and investment + IT IS STILL OP because of the unique mechanic and fact ggg worked on giving blood rage to life builds etc. THIS IS JUST FOR THE MJOLNER; other uniques all have their own story. SO PLEASE SPARE US YOUR SORROW cry because you were a pussy or lazy to farm one your self. AND before you say you are a casual with RL; GUESS WHAT ME 2, student, have a part day job, grinding RL like a boss to make it through but still I find some time to have fun in PoE. [Removed by Support]

TLDR: HOW DOES A LEGACY ITEM SOMEONE IN DISTANCE HAS CHANGE YOUR GAME EXPERIENCE? IT CHANGES IT ONLY IF YOU ARE JELLOUS OF NOT HAVING IT, and lazy to play for it. Bring the hate!

Not going into any reasoning of the change, it was very well expected and needed.

mjölner were at 30 - 40 ex before we knew the nerf not after

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Tmfm wrote:

Daaaanng I didn't see Void Bat in that buff list. I was hopping for spell dmg reduction to be dropped to at least 60%

80% is so harsh.....

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Aldora_the_Summoner wrote:

Wow, never underestimate the ability of the interweb to bring out some of the worst aspects of the human condition.

I find it interesting that people complain about item changes (well, reductions actually, nobody is whinging about the improvements) but without applying any context to the game changes. So item X becomes 20% less powerful while monsters have 10% less life as an example. What has actually happened is the developers have rebalanced the interacting parts to ensure the gameplay and challenge are represented the way they intend.

Utilising a legacy item has the unintended consequence of altering that balance but what are the real impacts of that? You could argue that the legacy player has an advantage... but in doing what exactly? Perhaps the item helps them clear quicker and marginally improve their drop rate so they make a little more currency.

Consider the flipside of this though. This high powered farming character is actually putting more items into the market, making them more available for other players. Is that a bad thing?

If players wanted a Mjölner or Windripper to enjoy a particular style of play then that's actually going to be more accessible to them now. Does it matter that the item is not the old version? I mean, does it really matter? The item has been rebalanced to work functionally with the new content so the player would still be able to play the game effectively.

To me, using a legacy item is the equivalent of selecting Easy mode in a game. Sure you can rip through the level in only a few minutes, but you're not truly experiencing the game to the fullest potential.

I've never owned either of those items. In fact the only T1 item I've had drop for me was Marohi Erqi but I feel like I've only just started to scratch the surface of this game. There is so much potential in so many combinations and that's what I love so much about PoE. You don't have to play the game in a particular way to enjoy it or be successful.

Speaking of variety, I can't wait to see all the new uniques that will potentially leave both Mjölner and Windripper for dead. That would certainly make this entire conversation moot :)