[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

Just an update from a casual player, since it's practically the first char for me in talisman atm it's going quite slow with no leveling gear. But I manage.
Finished off Brutus yday in cruel and hit level 42. My main damage is probably EK-Phys to Light-Added Cold-Added Light. To make more damage I have an Flame Totem inside a Night's Hold, and also a Searing Bond unlinked. For uniques/tough rares I also apply Essence Drain-Rapid Decay, still waiting for that okay 3-link-something to add controlled destruction aswell.

I did take a similar path you suggested, but instead of taking the shortcut through shadow I used your normal pathing to entropy and growth & decay, slowly going towards dirty techniques, in hope of being able to switch to Caustic Arrow soon to do some damage.

Here's my tree atm at 42.
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QW1CC4OSBEvE20UCRUgGY4byCP2JogwfDY9TZJRR1uvYlpirGyMdoJ9dY19jb-QCp2qoSKiQKOKr-u0xbVItzC748LsxKLIDNN-3Q3fmOOE62Ptg-4O73r0-Paj_ro=

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iDecibel wrote:

Just an update from a casual player, since it's practically the first char for me in talisman atm it's going quite slow with no leveling gear. But I manage.
Finished off Brutus yday in cruel and hit level 42. My main damage is probably EK-Phys to Light-Added Cold-Added Light. To make more damage I have an Flame Totem inside a Night's Hold, and also a Searing Bond unlinked. For uniques/tough rares I also apply Essence Drain-Rapid Decay, still waiting for that okay 3-link-something to add controlled destruction aswell.

I did take a similar path you suggested, but instead of taking the shortcut through shadow I used your normal pathing to entropy and growth & decay, slowly going towards dirty techniques, in hope of being able to switch to Caustic Arrow soon to do some damage.

Here's my tree atm at 42.
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QW1CC4OSBEvE20UCRUgGY4byCP2JogwfDY9TZJRR1uvYlpirGyMdoJ9dY19jb-QCp2qoSKiQKOKr-u0xbVItzC748LsxKLIDNN-3Q3fmOOE62Ptg-4O73r0-Paj_ro=

Hey iDecibel,

I recently leveled from scratch as well starting with Night's Hold - Flame Totem.
I found that around level 35-40 the damage wasn't satisfying anymore, but I didn't want to switch to CA already, as the good passives were not available yet.

So I googled and found a pretty good set-up to level up to level 60, at which point I finally switched to CA.
Best thing is, it only requires a 4-link set-up.

Quote from reddit:
"In 2.0 it used to be firestorm + flame totem. In 2.1 flame totem isn't as good but if you have a nights hold it goes a pretty long way. After using firestorm in a +1 quartz scepter with destruction and conc, you put on two wands with spell dmg, a rustic, and a breakrib talisman at 28 and use bladefall. It's damage is insane, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised it getting a pretty big nerf next big patch."

Links: Bladefall - Conc Effect - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting
That brings you so far, even until maps.

Hope it helps,
Cheers

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ben_hure wrote:

..."It's damage is insane, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised it getting a pretty big nerf next big patch."

There's no way Bladefall isn't getting the hammer for 2.2, especially with Ascendency classes.

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ben_hure wrote:

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iDecibel wrote:

Just an update from a casual player, since it's practically the first char for me in talisman atm it's going quite slow with no leveling gear. But I manage.
Finished off Brutus yday in cruel and hit level 42. My main damage is probably EK-Phys to Light-Added Cold-Added Light. To make more damage I have an Flame Totem inside a Night's Hold, and also a Searing Bond unlinked. For uniques/tough rares I also apply Essence Drain-Rapid Decay, still waiting for that okay 3-link-something to add controlled destruction aswell.

I did take a similar path you suggested, but instead of taking the shortcut through shadow I used your normal pathing to entropy and growth & decay, slowly going towards dirty techniques, in hope of being able to switch to Caustic Arrow soon to do some damage.

Here's my tree atm at 42.
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAAF4B0QW1CC4OSBEvE20UCRUgGY4byCP2JogwfDY9TZJRR1uvYlpirGyMdoJ9dY19jb-QCp2qoSKiQKOKr-u0xbVItzC748LsxKLIDNN-3Q3fmOOE62Ptg-4O73r0-Paj_ro=

Hey iDecibel,

I recently leveled from scratch as well starting with Night's Hold - Flame Totem.
I found that around level 35-40 the damage wasn't satisfying anymore, but I didn't want to switch to CA already, as the good passives were not available yet.

So I googled and found a pretty good set-up to level up to level 60, at which point I finally switched to CA.
Best thing is, it only requires a 4-link set-up.

Quote from reddit:
"In 2.0 it used to be firestorm + flame totem. In 2.1 flame totem isn't as good but if you have a nights hold it goes a pretty long way. After using firestorm in a +1 quartz scepter with destruction and conc, you put on two wands with spell dmg, a rustic, and a breakrib talisman at 28 and use bladefall. It's damage is insane, so much so that I wouldn't be surprised it getting a pretty big nerf next big patch."

Links: Bladefall - Conc Effect - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting
That brings you so far, even until maps.

Hope it helps,
Cheers

Whoa! This sounds promising! Imma try it asap when I get home! I got all of them leveled except bladefall. Tyvm!

Hello Serleth & others..

I'm currently MFing on HC Talisman (lvl88) as Shadow but essentially the build's about the same. I'm more taking into account a lot of the gear & MFing set up. I was curious as to what gem links you think are most efficient for a 5L MF set up.


https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYAAx4FLQW1Bx4Kmw2NDkgRLxGWE20UCRR1Fr8Y2x9BIuoj9iaIJpUrCi4jLlMwcTB8MgE2PTfUOkI6sz7PQzFJE0lRSn1LeEz_TZJOKlFHU7taGluvXEBd8mHiYqxlTWqMbAhsjG5pdO11nnXLdoJ464TFh3aHy4ngjX2Nfo2_j_qTH5OZlS6bJpu1naqi2aOKp5uw2LIZtMW00bVItzC3truevTa95r6nv9XC7MMzwzrIDMgUzxXTb9Qj1fjawdvn3ajjn-ZY6NbqYutj7T_uDvDV8Yr1b_zF

I have 37iiq/173iir w/o Item Rarity linked -> 37iiq/239iir with Item Rarity linked. While the Divination Distillate is active I have 54iiq/213iir w/o Item Rarity linked and 54iiq/279iir with Item Rarity linked.

**My question is with my 5L set up, is it more efficient to use CA - Void Manipulation - Rapid Decay - Empower lvl 3 - Slower Proj... Would you recommend CA - Void Manipulation - Slower Proj - Empower lvl 3 - Item Rarity... Or would you recommend CA - Void Manipulation - Rapid Decay - Empower lvl 3 - Item Rarity?

Lastly, I noticed people were curious in your thread about how a map's iir/iiq roll corresponds to your character's iir/iiq (c ratio, or coefficient). So here's a spreadsheet you can use to calculate that. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gCdqs_eNQNz1bIccfzHhxRl4JKQ_C1PbrsC5lJBwU7c/ Make sure to click File -> Make Copy so you can have an editable version for yourself.

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caliark wrote:

**My question is with my 5L set up, would you recommend...

Depends what you want. IIR, AoE, or damage.

AoE: CA - iAoE - Conc Effect - Rapid Decay - Void Manipulation
Damage: CA - Conc Effect - Rapid Decay - Void Manipulation - Empower
IIR: CA - Conc Effect - Void Manipulation - IIR and either AoE/Empower, depending on your preference for damage or cloud radius.

Slower Proj is now just straight up too weak to include in this build. Some people look at my stats page and go "whaaaaaaa" -- but I just don't have a 20/20 VM in Standard atm.

As for the coefficient spreadsheet, thanks for your work. I had my own version up for a while but some discussion led me to believe I may be doing it wrong.

If you're alright with it, I'll put yours up in my "Tools" section. Let me know.

Ah okay, great thanks for your response Serleth.

I can fool around with those combos and maybe update you guys later. I've found Rigwald's Quills really helps with AoE over my Drillneck setup but I also needed to add a damage jewel, so I prefer it over Drillneck now. Of course, Drillneck also has life & evasion, and you'd need a high rolled Rigwald's Quills which may not be super affordable for some people.

As for the spreadsheet, yeah if you'd like to link it go for it. I just used the generally agreed-upon formulas to calculate the co-efficient and tried to keep it simple so people could see how the formulas worked. That's kind of surprising people thought you were doing it wrong if you were following the formula anyways.

Thanks for your work as well!

I forget the exact details but it had something to do with how I was calculating the map effective iiq/iir coefficient.

I tested Quills out and I found the AoE increase was just awkward. Because you actually have to fire directly at an enemy to get the benefit.

Ascendency will fix that problem anyway with the Deadeye class, +1 additional arrow.

And thanks, I'll post your sheet now.

Nice build. What tier maps do you think its the most efficient and how do you roll them? Atm I'm running t5+ for armour with t1 res rolls.

Just to update my set up from a few threads up -> I experimented with all of those combinations of Gem linking and decided to switch back to Drillneck and use one of the new talismans.



I lose some rarity but it turns out I get a HUGE dmg increase from the amulet & pierce chance and the amulet & quiver also make up for the life & evasion nodes I needed with the Rigwald's Quills -. But essentially if I want to MF I can keep 37iiq/193iir with CA Empower Rapid Decay Void Manip & IR and do a ridiculous amount of damage with the new Talisman, and do even more when I replace IR with Conc. Of course the attack speed and projectile speed that is lost from Quills just makes Drillneck in fact better after all :D Good times