[outdated] Caustic Arrow Solo Map MFer (20/300+)

decided that wont go higher than 12 as mf so stopped at this gear setup

carcass makes life better. but not too much hp though...

wow I am retarded, rofl thanks for showing me that

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Gosen wrote:

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thelibertarian wrote:

I just made a swap from a +2 5L w/o empower and leo mod to a +3 5L with a lvl 2 empower + leo mod and my unbuffed cloud damage only increased by about 500? If my memory serves me right from warbands the damage spike should be higher?

edit: my cloud dmg with 7 frenzy is about 9k is that about the same as other people with a +3?

I have 2+ without empower with 20lvl gems and have slightly over 10k, but I have OP jewels, so maybe that's why :P Anyway difference between lvl19 and 20 of CA wasn't that huge, so I don't think it's really worth to invest for 2+1 bow, this one level gives very small amount of dps, at this stage you should focus more on defense or mf. 6 link? Maybe for IIR gem, maybe if you have empower on level 3, otherwise it's just fun for rich players and number fanatics. I see no difference in clear speed after many hours of playing on 19 CA and now reaching 20 level.

There are two things going on here.

The first is dependent on your jewels and the rest of your tree as well as your CA and Empower level. You should be at 15k tooltip with 21 CA + Level 4 Empower.

Compare this to the 29k we got in 2.0.

This makes complete sense because of the second thing: at gem level 28, CA got a 50% damage reduction with 2.1.

So the 1-1.5k difference you see per gem level in 2.0 translates to a 500-750 damage difference (tooltip) in 2.1.

To Gosen's remark, it's still worth it to get a +3 bow, however. Remember that the 500 tooltip difference you're seeing does NOT factor in Concentrated Effect.

Your actual damage increase was probably more along the lines of 2-3k, given your gem level of 19.

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Annor wrote:

wow I am retarded, rofl thanks for showing me that

No problem, common mistake =) When I was first MFing with Righteous Fire back in the day, I had the same question. Took me a while to figure out what was going "wrong" lol.

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Serleth wrote:

Compare this to the 29k we got in 2.0.

sigh
hidden potential non-mf ca hits 35

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Belton wrote:

I have 35k tooltip atm. here is gear.

using hidden potential, 3 jewels with 2 dmg mods + life, and poachers aim. 7 frenzy charges. 5200 life atm



edit: was being lazy, here are jewels.

Yep. "Non-mf" is the key there. :P

For the purposes of this build though (MFing), that's way overkill.

With 8 Wither Stacks up, we get back to our 2.0 dps. And we only need that for bosses.

Once the build is complete (Level 20 CA, Empower 3, +3 Bow), honestly the difference is negligible for us, because we aren't pushing 78+ maps.

Clear speed for T1-T10 maps is identical.

Atziri runs are only slowed down by about 2 minutes.

/shrug

Not a huge deal for what we're doing.

More important if you want to do say, the twinned t15 map clear or Uber Atziri.

yes, i wanted to go kaoms and push but then decided, that there are a lot of better builds for it. so i got carcass and keep farming :)

Yeah I'm going to do the same thing, just not quite sure yet what I'm going to switch to for the T15.

Probably yawnclone spintowin.

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wraeyth wrote:

Is it worth rolling Spell Totem to 20q lvl1?

Think I got missed a few pages back ;) Should I be 20qing my Spell Totem?

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wraeyth wrote:

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wraeyth wrote:

Is it worth rolling Spell Totem to 20q lvl1?

Think I got missed a few pages back ;) Should I be 20qing my Spell Totem?

Its survivability is more important than its quality. I'd maybe start levelling a spare in your 2nd weapon slots, then once it's ~lvl 18, 20% recipe and swap to relevel again.

Sorry about that, sometimes I'm replying overtired or undercaffeinated. ;)