NeverSink's LOOTFILTER v8.13.x♦ in-depth ♦ endgame+leveling 2in1 ♦ user-friendly ♦ SC/HC versions

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NeverSink wrote:

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FluffyFractalshard wrote:

i have sent you an email but i will post it here, too:

the new update 7.8.6 a few hours ago, messed up my blessed orb:
it is not showing in strict anymore even tho it should, because its listed to be "high tier 3", same as regrets and alcs. however ingame it is colored like "basic tier 1" (transmutes) and obviously doesnt show on strict. i tried updating my filter and double checked, even put it up a tier and tried again, its still showing as this super low tier which is annoying. i hope you can fix that, thanks!

when reversing to an older safe which is still 7.8.5 it suddenly shows again...
please dont do that to us.. who knows what more valuable currency could be missed with bugs like these :/

That's not a mistake.

These orbs have become very, very common and cheap. They also sometimes drop in stack sizes of 2-3 (then they are highlighted).

At this point they are just slightly CHEAPER than wisdom scrolls.

https://poe.ninja/challenge/currency

if you really want to see them, I recommend changing the filter with FilterBlade

So you automatically assume everyone plays league? Or is there a standard version of the filter I dont know of? I am playing only standard this league and there they are still 7 to 1 chaos (slightly worth more than a chance orb).

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FluffyFractalshard wrote:

So you automatically assume everyone plays league? Or is there a standard version of the filter I dont know of? I am playing only standard this league and there they are still 7 to 1 chaos (slightly worth more than a chance orb).

The filters are best designed for SC/HC (SSF/non-SSF) league gameplay. That's also my area of expertise.

They can still be used for other game modes, such as standard league economy, racing, custom leagues with special rules, but I recommend relying on FilterBlade's features to finetune things.

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NeverSink wrote:

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FluffyFractalshard wrote:

So you automatically assume everyone plays league? Or is there a standard version of the filter I dont know of? I am playing only standard this league and there they are still 7 to 1 chaos (slightly worth more than a chance orb).

The filters are best designed for SC/HC (SSF/non-SSF) league gameplay. That's also my area of expertise.

They can still be used for other game modes, such as standard league economy, racing, custom leagues with special rules, but I recommend relying on FilterBlade's features to finetune things.

I am using filterblade and have finetuned my filter exactly how I want it, but recently it keeps changing auotmatically and switching up things without my permission.

I have activated the "lock-symbol" but still! Is it because I use the newly added "sync with poe" feature instead of downloading it manually? I will revert to using the downloaded filter file and hope it doesnt change every other day and fucking up my currency tiers. freakin annoying!

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FluffyFractalshard wrote:

I am using filterblade and have finetuned my filter exactly how I want it, but recently it keeps changing auotmatically and switching up things without my permission.

I have activated the "lock-symbol" but still! Is it because I use the newly added "sync with poe" feature instead of downloading it manually? I will revert to using the downloaded filter file and hope it doesnt change every other day and fucking up my currency tiers. freakin annoying!

It has nothing to do with sync with poe.

Every time you load, it will merge your performed changes into the latest version (that's part of the core of the website).

If you want a tier to keep it's current state, use: "lock all" (not just "lock mode", that allows you to customize the locks). Also every item you moved won't change it's tier either.

Hopefully that helps.

Noticed something odd about Perandus Coins while looking through the default Strict Normal 7.8.6 Filter:



Why does "MEDIUM SIZED STACKS" have it's StackSize set to "ANY" -- shouldn't it be some number between 4 and 17?

Edit: There's also some really confusing bug with "Hide rares by item slot" ..

If I do this:



It hides item level 75 Jewelled Foils, and Vaal Regalias like I expect it to.

However, if I do this:



It absolutely REFUSES to hide jewellery! Tier 1, 2, or 3 -- it doesn't matter. Paua Amulets, Diamond Rings, Agate Amulets, they're all there.

It isn't until I set that rule to "affect ALL rares" (which definitely is not the behaviour I want) that it actually starts hiding bad rings and amulets like I expect it to.

For whatever reason this entire "Rings and Amulets" category thinks it's in some special category above even Tier 1, making it impossible to filter out properly:

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Lothrik wrote:

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1) The perandus coins behave correctly. In the filter it's first the large stack coin rule, than the small one and finally the "other one" which is the medium one. It catches whatever coins the first two don't.

2) As of right now the structure of the filter indeed treats trinkets in a different category from other rares. The "New rule" strictness system will probably receive an overhaul in one of the upcoming updates.

Use the affect all rares rule for now, it won't touch on expensive things, such as incursion modifiers or super exotic bases.

Boon of Justice should be on the same tier (or lower) than Rain of Chaos as it requires a similar number of cards but Offering to the Goddess is strictly worse than a Chaos Orb.

The same goes for Coveted Possession, 5 regals for 9 divination cards is basically 1:1 equivalent to Rain of Chaos after the first week of any given league.

Typo under Uniques:

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NeverSink wrote:

2) As of right now the structure of the filter indeed treats trinkets in a different category from other rares. The "New rule" strictness system will probably receive an overhaul in one of the upcoming updates.

Use the affect all rares rule for now, it won't touch on expensive things, such as incursion modifiers or super exotic bases.

Thanks! I added two rules in that section that:
Hides all non-unique [Coral Amulet], [Gold Amulet], and [Gold Ring] above item level 65, and all non-unique [Iron Ring], [Moonstone Ring], [Paua Ring], [Paua Amulet], [Vanguard Belt], and [Convoking Wand] between item level 65 and 80.

Just as a side note if you're interested in tier changes, [Unset Ring] should really be tier 2 not tier 3. It might not be the most popular ring base, but I absolutely think it has one of the most powerful implicits, both for summoners and the current (ridiculously socket-heavy) meta. It's also likely going to be the only ring base worth calling tier 1 in PoE 2, IMO.

The entire [Talismans: Remaining] category also seems completely useless to have visible on Strict, as 99.9% of the items that show up under that are going to be worse than a 1 chaos rare with an anointed notable. Unless GGG makes talismans anointable I don't think anyone would complain about these being hidden.

Edit: Random outdated info on the overview tab:

Edit 2: I don't understand why saving my unique item configuration under:



.. doesn't save. I change the thresholds and included tiers, click done, click auto-sort, save the filter, refresh the page, and reload the filter.. and all of my threshold and tier changes under "Configure" are reset back to the default. I don't have this problem with Currency Configuration, those settings persist perfectly fine.

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Another random bug: sanitiseString_PoeFilterName currently filters out dashes (-) unnecessarily, as the official website is perfectly fine with them.

Is there any reason why the followed item filters are not updating every 4 hours like in the past?

For instance
NeverSink-5uberstr-softcore Version: 7.8.6.2020.124.1 Last updated : May 3, 2020, 9:42:59 AM

My followed filter above has not updated in almost 10 days.
Previous to this it was every 4 hours.

Is something wrong on my end or did something change with the filter updating policy?

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Lothrik wrote:

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Thank you for the feedback

- You make a good point with boon of justice.
- Unset rings are always in a weird spot. They're either incredibely useful or incredibely useless, depending on your class. I'll probably get more second opinions.
- Talismans are shown for a different reason. They drop in bulks, are identified, take one slot and sell for alterations. Alts are in high demand this league, so the addition of their sale price and the low chance of them being useful enough is the reason they're highlighted
- I'll update the abyss belt info, thanks
- The configurator options are a work in progress. We didn't announce the saving yet and it's more of a POC right now. We hope to expand that at some point, however right now there's still some technical challenges.
- sanitiseString_PoeFilterName - the POE API has changed several times (without any information) and keeps changing. Our preference is to simply stick to minimal special characters.

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Is there any reason why the followed item filters are not updating every 4 hours like in the past?

For instance
NeverSink-5uberstr-softcore Version: 7.8.6.2020.124.1 Last updated : May 3, 2020, 9:42:59 AM

My followed filter above has not updated in almost 10 days.
Previous to this it was every 4 hours.

Is something wrong on my end or did something change with the filter updating policy?

That one was on me. Currently there's a token I need to refresh every month by hand to allow upload from the generation tool -> poe site.

I somehow forgot or didn't save. I've updated it, it's working now. Thank you for notifying me.

Resolved nvm!

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2862113