PoE 1 PC servers are restarting in:
.
They should be back up in approximately .
PoE 1 Xbox servers are restarting in:
.
They should be back up in approximately .
PoE 1 Sony servers are restarting in:
.
They should be back up in approximately .

unique items *no longer updated*

"
AnnanFay wrote:

If you think my calculations are wrong, prove it with screenshots with you only wearing and taking off only one piece of equipment.

I want to see your life go up by 500 by putting on some gloves!


My ranger friend at lvl 90 is using Gankstaboo's build, linked below:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAdECcQSzBS0ILgx9Dq0QfxRNFSAWbxjbGS4ZhRmOGbQaOB0UIWAkqiftKaUqTSzpMgkyfjKJNuk64TwtPydAoEOcSn1QUFRJVcZW-lfiWGNZ81uvXz9gS2OnZp5noGwWbqp07XTxd-V463q4eu-DOIPbh3aI8YzPj0aQCpBVm42euaIAokCmV6cIp4Ssqq6Tr-u3PriTud2-p8APwBrEosT2xp7GrsbYytPNmM5xz2XQ0NJN037Uj9yC3Q3dRt7G42rnCudS52PqYuw47YPvDu9O73rvfPAf8i_yRfPd9Pj2SPqx-tL8S_xO_MX-Cg==

Link above has 317% life nodes, and there is still a lot of nodes invested in to the duelist tree for dps.

He gets about 400 HP, with a 89 HP yellow glove.

It is very common for lvl 85 and above players who use kaoms and stack life nodes like the above build to get 4k+ HP from Kaom's Heart alone.

I don't have to prove it really, just pm any lvl 85+ ranger/maruader kaoms user on your friendlist and chances are they will tell you the exact same thing.
IGN: Asharin
~[1.0.5] 9K ES CI+VP+AA CoC EK-Discharger~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730607
~Top 5 Builds in Standard/Domination~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/599443
Last edited by Wishinan#1706 on May 11, 2013, 2:57:18 AM
"
Wishinan wrote:
[...] My character with Kaoms and close to 300% life nodes in passive gets a 400-500hp boost with 80 hp on gloves.


"
Wishinan wrote:
[...] My ranger friend at lvl 86 [...] He gets about 400 HP, with a 89 HP yellow glove. [...]


lol, so you found out your 300% wasn't as good as you thought?

"
Wishinan wrote:
And 400-500% life nodes is very common in ranger/marauder builds.


Very common in any class which uses kaom's and stacks life, by definition! There are rangers and marauders which don't use kaom's, and there are characters of other classes who do.

It would be more accurate to say: Everyone is stacking life and using Kaoms. These people can get 320 to 500 life from high rolled gloves.
Brutus. Do you even sync?
"
AnnanFay wrote:

If you have 300% Increased Maximum Life you will have:

80 + (300% of 80) = 80 + (3 * 80) = 80 + 240 = 320


Yes, thanks for doing the calculations. The link I mentioned above, has 317% life nodes, with still alot of nodes pumped in to dueslist tree.

And my dear brother, yellow gloves can roll up to 89-90HP.

Using a 90HP glove and using the build I linked above with 317% life nodes,

90 + (317% of 90) = 90 + (3.17*90)= 90 + 285.3 = 375.3

This is using a build with 317% life nodes.

Assuming a player who follows gankstaboo's build but respecs the 9 nodes in duelist tree to hp nodes, he could get an additional 52% life nodes.

Using a build with 369% life nodes,

90 + (369% of 90) = 90 + (3.69 * 90)= 422.1

What is so surprising, really?
IGN: Asharin
~[1.0.5] 9K ES CI+VP+AA CoC EK-Discharger~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730607
~Top 5 Builds in Standard/Domination~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/599443
"
AnnanFay wrote:
lol, so you found out your 300% wasn't as good as you thought?


I'm a cold-crit witch. But i do have some knowledge of this game to know that 80HP can easily give rise to 300-400HP in many end-game ranger/marauder builds.

And what do you mean accurate? From the first post in this thread to now if you have been following, I've always maintained the stand that a player using Alpha Howls and Kaoms would never find thunderfist as BIS. Scroll back a few pages to read what I said.
IGN: Asharin
~[1.0.5] 9K ES CI+VP+AA CoC EK-Discharger~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730607
~Top 5 Builds in Standard/Domination~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/599443
Last edited by Wishinan#1706 on May 11, 2013, 3:21:19 AM
"
AnnanFay wrote:
Very common in any class which uses kaom's and stacks life, by definition! There are rangers and marauders which don't use kaom's, and there are characters of other classes who do.


I'm sure we can all agree on that.
IGN: Asharin
~[1.0.5] 9K ES CI+VP+AA CoC EK-Discharger~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730607
~Top 5 Builds in Standard/Domination~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/599443
"
AnnanFay wrote:
It would be more accurate to say: Everyone is stacking life and using Kaoms. These people can get 320 to 500 life from high rolled gloves.


It would even be more accurate to say: Everyone is stacking life and using kaoms. These people can get 320 to 500life , 300-400 Armour and dual 40 Res from high rolled gloves.
IGN: Asharin
~[1.0.5] 9K ES CI+VP+AA CoC EK-Discharger~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/730607
~Top 5 Builds in Standard/Domination~ www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/599443
Last edited by Wishinan#1706 on May 11, 2013, 3:29:26 AM
"
Wishinan wrote:
"
AnnanFay wrote:

If you think my calculations are wrong, prove it with screenshots with you only wearing and taking off only one piece of equipment.

I want to see your life go up by 500 by putting on some gloves!


My ranger friend at lvl 90 is using Gankstaboo's build, linked below:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAdECcQSzBS0ILgx9Dq0QfxRNFSAWbxjbGS4ZhRmOGbQaOB0UIWAkqiftKaUqTSzpMgkyfjKJNuk64TwtPydAoEOcSn1QUFRJVcZW-lfiWGNZ81uvXz9gS2OnZp5noGwWbqp07XTxd-V463q4eu-DOIPbh3aI8YzPj0aQCpBVm42euaIAokCmV6cIp4Ssqq6Tr-u3PriTud2-p8APwBrEosT2xp7GrsbYytPNmM5xz2XQ0NJN037Uj9yC3Q3dRt7G42rnCudS52PqYuw47YPvDu9O73rvfPAf8i_yRfPd9Pj2SPqx-tL8S_xO_MX-Cg==

Link above has 317% life nodes, and there is still a lot of nodes invested in to the duelist tree for dps.

He gets about 400 HP, with a 89 HP yellow glove.

It is very common for lvl 85 and above players who use kaoms and stack life nodes like the above build to get 4k+ HP from Kaom's Heart alone.

I don't have to prove it really, just pm any lvl 85+ ranger/maruader kaoms user on your friendlist and chances are they will tell you the exact same thing.


lol u should know how to learn when u are wrong and not hard headed, or u will be ashamed more from ur act dude

first let me tell u from what i calculate from that skill tree that was 305% life, not 317%, i may be wrong but whatever

2.u say ur ranger friend was lv 90, but why theres 119 point used in that skill tree while iam lv 86 and just 104 point used on my skill tree? understand what i mean? that skill tree u shown cant be reached at lv 90, maybe it can be reach when ur friedn was lv 99, cause max passive point is 120

3. 305% life node from 90 life just give u 364,5 life, so where that 400-600 life come from?
thats why i say when i first explain to u that it need around 400-500% life node, maybe more, around 570% to reach 600 life, and where u can get that many life node? all life node in skill tree combined?
"
Wishinan wrote:
"
aristolholy wrote:

Just to illustrate how badly wrong you are, here's a 115 point build that only takes life nodes.

It has 497% life. It's actually pretty close to a high life RF burner build, but those are a special case since for them life nodes are damage nodes. And even such a build can't afford so many life nodes since they need at a minimum more regen.


e: 521% life build at 119 points (take Oak's 40 HP in normal). I'd accidentally taken a few regen nodes in the above build.


With 521% life nodes, that 80hp on gloves is going to give you way more then 400-600 hp.....

My character with Kaoms and close to 300% life nodes in passive gets a 400-500hp boost with 80 hp on gloves.


My point with those builds (thanks for the misattribution, FOAD please), is that no real build is ever going to have more than 450% or so life. You have to sacrifice too much to get over that - you can't even get any other defensive nodes besides life so you're just a big squishy bag of HP with subpar damage (I guess unless you have the best possible items).

Also, you don't get 500HP from 80HP gloves even with the theoretical 521% life build (you get 495.8 HP).
"
Wishinan wrote:
"
aristolholy wrote:
btw wishinan, pls dont take it personally, but if u cant overcap resist easily, then u should buy more expensive gear since i still have max resist even when i unequip 3 of my gear


You can max your res at 85-85-85-85 after unequipping 3 of your gear, in an ele weakness/-max res map? I'm also assuming you're using thunderfist/no all res gloves?

Please link me your godly gear.


here my gear, i purposely not include my glove, boots, chest, amulet and weapon to show u how easy to max resist :


as u can see my gear is not godly but can reach 75% resist easily even at merciless,
my belt and helmet have tri resist but with more currency u can buy belt and helmet that have higher tri resist
my shiled also not good enough for resist cause godly shield can have high tri resist (up to 45 all resist while mine just 18 all resist)
same for my 2 ring, my 2 ring resist is low compared to prismatic ring that have 2 all resist mod + 2 other resist mod

so even when u are cursed by elemntal weakness u can still max resist easily with purity or ur other gear
"
Ornedan wrote:
"
Wishinan wrote:
"
aristolholy wrote:

Just to illustrate how badly wrong you are, here's a 115 point build that only takes life nodes.

It has 497% life. It's actually pretty close to a high life RF burner build, but those are a special case since for them life nodes are damage nodes. And even such a build can't afford so many life nodes since they need at a minimum more regen.


e: 521% life build at 119 points (take Oak's 40 HP in normal). I'd accidentally taken a few regen nodes in the above build.


With 521% life nodes, that 80hp on gloves is going to give you way more then 400-600 hp.....

My character with Kaoms and close to 300% life nodes in passive gets a 400-500hp boost with 80 hp on gloves.


My point with those builds (thanks for the misattribution, FOAD please), is that no real build is ever going to have more than 450% or so life. You have to sacrifice too much to get over that - you can't even get any other defensive nodes besides life so you're just a big squishy bag of HP with subpar damage (I guess unless you have the best possible items).

Also, you don't get 500HP from 80HP gloves even with the theoretical 521% life build (you get 495.8 HP).


btw i dont remember write something like that :D
not me that write:
Just to illustrate how badly wrong you are, here's a 115 point build that only takes life nodes.

It has 497% life. It's actually pretty close to a high life RF burner build, but those are a special case since for them life nodes are damage nodes. And even such a build can't afford so many life nodes since they need at a minimum more regen.


e: 521% life build at 119 points (take Oak's 40 HP in normal). I'd accidentally taken a few regen nodes in the above build.
Last edited by aristolholy#4848 on May 11, 2013, 6:27:24 AM

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info