Solution: Expand Premade PvP char selection and make torunaments using only those characters.

"

terrex wrote:

"

Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

why are those who actually played LLD for more than 1week claiming gear isnt that hard to obtain?

You can make a pretty good lld char for 5-15ex depending on the build and how lucky you get with crafts, most of the fee will be in mastercrafts. Good elreon jewelery is tough as well and that does make a big difference. My character right now I would say I have invested around 15ex in.

So then it's not that bad after all?

"

andkamen wrote:

They are working (or planning on...) on a system where you race and pvp at the end of it with w/e you found on the way. The exact conditions and rules have not been announced but it was hinted on a an event of similar style being in the works.

Old school D2 Ironman PvP style, i heard about this as well and can't wait to try it.

"

andkamen wrote:

With how accessible the majority of gear is to craft using elreon the excuse that some people have no gear is kind of moot. Almost anyone that wants to pvp at high level should not find it too hard to acquire the items.

Well, i have Elreon (L8) on exactly 1 league out of 4 (Hardcore, merged from Beyond). I don't have a hideout on Standard, Bloodlines, Torment. There's no way i'm going to grind Elreon 8 on 3 more leagues (tho i'd venture a guess that that's true for 99.9% of pvpers, all the way up the food chain). Not exactly super accessible, as that limits me to maybe being competitive in half of this season's events, and maybe 10% of season 2.

Not complaining though, i'm having fun with my garbage PvP characters and builds. :) Many more coming!

"

Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

"

terrex wrote:

"

Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

why are those who actually played LLD for more than 1week claiming gear isnt that hard to obtain?

You can make a pretty good lld char for 5-15ex depending on the build and how lucky you get with crafts, most of the fee will be in mastercrafts. Good elreon jewelery is tough as well and that does make a big difference. My character right now I would say I have invested around 15ex in.

So then it's not that bad after all?

No, but sadly I am matched again usually someone less geared or even more geared than me. I tend to fight cyclone a lot which is a pretty strong counter so that doesn't help much as well.

I do have fun matches, I promise. Some of my feedback has been a bit harsh but I will cool it and keep it more constrictive. I'd love to just see it at a more fun / balanced competitive state. I sure don't have as much as experience others but I do see some favouring builds that crush currently for a few reasons.

Premade fixes can be so simple.

Every premade has tabula rasa, lochtonial gloves, wanderlust boots, elreon jewelry -5 with 40 life, worm's belt, asenath circlet, and perandus shield.

Bowers have 150 pdps bow or at least storm cloud, melee have 120 pdps sword or at least geofri's, casters have the spell echo wand. simplpeee...

orr make new basic uniques with t3-2 dmg across the board.

"

bigfoot312 wrote:

Premade fixes can be so simple.

Every premade has tabula rasa, lochtonial gloves, wanderlust boots, elreon jewelry -5 with 40 life, worm's belt, lochtonial helmet, and perandus shield.

Bowers have 150 pdps bow or at least storm cloud, melee have 120 pdps sword or at least geofri's, casters have the spell echo wand. simplpeee...

orr make new basic uniques with t3-2 dmg across the board.

Damn Zepping, this is the most concise answer for new pvpers I've seen. Give em new league lld gear, let em upgrade it a bit at a time like we would. At least toss out all 4 linked gear, if no tabula.

its cuz im baaane!!

"

bigfoot312 wrote:

Premade fixes can be so simple.

Every premade has tabula rasa, lochtonial gloves, wanderlust boots, elreon jewelry -5 with 40 life, worm's belt, lochtonial helmet, and perandus shield.

Bowers have 150 pdps bow or at least storm cloud, melee have 120 pdps sword or at least geofri's, casters have the spell echo wand. simplpeee...

orr make new basic uniques with t3-2 dmg across the board.

Yeah, I really like ur idea. Maybe slightly worse weapons. And about helm, u ment goldrim? ;D

I meant asenath helm, sorry! sniperrrr

Imagine how fun a tournament would be if it was all t2 geared chars with 0q gems, and you could choose your gems. People could test out skills and support links in comparison to one another against a pretty consistent level of opponents. You'd get identical bowers played against one another, maybe one with smarter supports, one with better gem optimization, and better tactics and that would decide a match. That would be a great alternative to our gear-heavy lld right now.

"

jcostello1 wrote:

Imagine how fun a tournament would be if it was all t2 geared chars with 0q gems, and you could choose your gems. People could test out skills and support links in comparison to one another against a pretty consistent level of opponents. You'd get identical bowers played against one another, maybe one with smarter supports, one with better gem optimization, and better tactics and that would decide a match. That would be a great alternative to our gear-heavy lld right now.

I like that idea. Would certainly increase the player base. What about uniques?