Solution: Expand Premade PvP char selection and make torunaments using only those characters.

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2i0 wrote:

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terrex wrote:

It just contradicts with many statements. It really does come down to pvgear. I am not saying it's wrong but to me it isn't much of a test of ones abilities.

I don't think we will get much further away from the crazy gear state for perm league pvp, temp league pvp might be a lot better for everyone aside from 15 people.

blame GGG for legacy items not those "15 people" you mentioned, it seems you guys really not trying PvP that much, the PvP formula needs some tweaks and same with certain skills than just being worry about crap like protect the "noobs" from "experienced" PvPers.

also because of this mindset we dont have a crossleague between leagues....

I've participated in every pvp event that I could so far. I didn't really invest much before the pvp update but I have since the update. I understand some skills mechanically are advantageous and they are more commonly used, I am even guilty for using nado atm. My intention isn't to exclude the people that invested before the update, that isn't fair or right at all. It's just been a frustrating process trying to compete. The 3v3 events so far have been by far the best and most enjoyable. 1v1 has come down to mostly gear and counters from my personal experience. That makes sense to an extent but I would love to see execution have more of a roll. Out of my 7 swiss matches I would say only 1 went back and forth where both had a chance.

Terrex, it's an arpg. Ofcourse gear matter. 3rd time. temp leagues would change this how, would still be a hunt for gear

1v1s have always been unbalanced, but not because of gear

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Terrex, it's an arpg. Ofcourse gear matter. 3rd time. temp leagues would change this how, would still be a hunt for gear

1v1s have always been unbalanced, but not because of gear

The currency available in temp is hardly comparable to perm. There are exceptions, I just don't think the gap will be as large, that's all. People don't have as much to spend, you wont see as many people with multimod on almost every ilvl 36 item equipped, 20% gems etc.

I agree 1v1 counter is a heavy influence alongside gear. It's just an awful feeling knowing you have literally zero chance in a match.

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terrex wrote:

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Terrex, it's an arpg. Ofcourse gear matter. 3rd time. temp leagues would change this how, would still be a hunt for gear

1v1s have always been unbalanced, but not because of gear

The currency available in temp is hardly comparable to perm. There are exceptions, I just don't think the gap will be as large, that's all. People don't have as much to spend, you wont see as many people with multimod on almost every ilvl 36 item equipped, 20% gems etc.

I agree 1v1 counter is a heavy influence alongside gear. It's just an awful feeling knowing you have literally zero chance in a match.

Also most I said reflects HLD, not LLD. I got the impression you wanted this to affect HLD and LLD

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

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terrex wrote:

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Terrex, it's an arpg. Ofcourse gear matter. 3rd time. temp leagues would change this how, would still be a hunt for gear

1v1s have always been unbalanced, but not because of gear

The currency available in temp is hardly comparable to perm. There are exceptions, I just don't think the gap will be as large, that's all. People don't have as much to spend, you wont see as many people with multimod on almost every ilvl 36 item equipped, 20% gems etc.

I agree 1v1 counter is a heavy influence alongside gear. It's just an awful feeling knowing you have literally zero chance in a match.

Also most I said reflects HLD, not LLD. I got the impression you wanted this to affect HLD and LLD

Not at all. To be honest HLD doesn't cross my mind the least bit. LLD is my focus currently and most of the events are lld. Nothing have I said is directed to HLD or involves it. I have only done a few events and it's worse than any pvp I have experienced so far in terms of balance.

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Once again that will just make people quit, since most pvpers played pre 1.3 too so all their crafts/farm will be a waste

people will quit because some guys cant use full mirrored/legacy gears in pvp?ye i will probably quit because i am enjoyed pvp on standart vs this guys. 1 hit rip after 1800...
and ye its pve game. when i after 7 wins in shit gear got top 70.. on lvl 87. when on standart top 150 by exp -lvl100 it means pvp dead. noone cares about pvp.

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godgraff wrote:

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Once again that will just make people quit, since most pvpers played pre 1.3 too so all their crafts/farm will be a waste

people will quit because some guys cant use full mirrored/legacy gears in pvp?ye i will probably quit because i am enjoyed pvp on standart vs this guys. 1 hit rip after 1800...
and ye its pve game. when i after 7 wins in shit gear got top 70.. on lvl 87. when on standart top 150 by exp -lvl100 it means pvp dead. noone cares about pvp.

why are those who actually played LLD for more than 1week claiming gear isnt that hard to obtain?

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

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godgraff wrote:

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Once again that will just make people quit, since most pvpers played pre 1.3 too so all their crafts/farm will be a waste

people will quit because some guys cant use full mirrored/legacy gears in pvp?ye i will probably quit because i am enjoyed pvp on standart vs this guys. 1 hit rip after 1800...
and ye its pve game. when i after 7 wins in shit gear got top 70.. on lvl 87. when on standart top 150 by exp -lvl100 it means pvp dead. noone cares about pvp.

why are those who actually played LLD for more than 1week claiming gear isnt that hard to obtain?

i talking about open pvp. not lld. lld for scrubs.

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

why are those who actually played LLD for more than 1week claiming gear isnt that hard to obtain?

You can make a pretty good lld char for 5-15ex depending on the build and how lucky you get with crafts, most of the fee will be in mastercrafts. Good elreon jewelery is tough as well and that does make a big difference. My character right now I would say I have invested around 15ex in.