Enki's Arc Witch Memorial Page & POE 2 Arc Summary

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Ling_Ling_ wrote:

I'm really interested in the more Arc chains thing.

So in the gear section it says that with the right setup, I can get a lv.31 arc that chains 10 times.

But I don't really understand how to do that exactly, because lv.21 Arc chains 8 times, with a +3 staff, a lv.4 Empower and a +1 Amulet it becomes a lv.28 Arc, but wouldn't I still need 3 levels from some item?

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Ling_Ling_ wrote:

I'm really interested in the more Arc chains thing.

So in the gear section it says that with the right setup, I can get a lv.31 arc that chains 10 times.

But I don't really understand how to do that exactly, because lv.21 Arc chains 8 times, with a +3 staff, a lv.4 Empower and a +1 Amulet it becomes a lv.28 Arc, but wouldn't I still need 3 levels from some item?

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gbsfrts wrote:

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Ling_Ling_ wrote:

I'm really interested in the more Arc chains thing.

So in the gear section it says that with the right setup, I can get a lv.31 arc that chains 10 times.

But I don't really understand how to do that exactly, because lv.21 Arc chains 8 times, with a +3 staff, a lv.4 Empower and a +1 Amulet it becomes a lv.28 Arc, but wouldn't I still need 3 levels from some item?

Are you taking in consideration the helm enchant that makes arc chain an additional time?

By the way, I'm really liking the new setup so far. With a Glorious Vanity gem, I'm sitting at 4.5k life and 3.184 at level 89, and my setup certainly isn't the most optimized.

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BigJobless wrote:

Do you believe this staff has a feature without +3 light? How important is the + level?

2 suffix and 1 prefix is still empty

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WelshyC wrote:

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smplx wrote:

I think it's worth mentioning for those who are swapping to the new setup that it really requires corrupted soul granted by the glorious vanity jewel to work. Otherwise the sustain will suffer. It takes over the functionality of soul tether but in a different way - soul tether is rendered useless if we have zero life leech. Glorious vanity with Doryani now costs 80 chaos so just keep that in mind. More details if you expand spoiler below.

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Hybrid eHP pool without anything = your ES leech will try hard to regen against all incoming damage but will fail miserably. It is just too week. Your upper 1/3 of your health pool will replenisg like a slug. Only other option here without gear upgrade is to convert the life regen gained from passives and stone golem to ES regen through Zealoth Oath and use life flask to replenish life when life pool is hit. Otherwise your life regen will only be active when you have 0 ES which is - in most cases - too little too late considering we have 4-5K life which is an easy 1 tap for this content.

Hybrid eHP pool with soul tether + life leech = your life leech and and ES leech will be active all the time when hit, sustaining the full capacity of your eHP pool with full effectiveness, which is considerably stronger. That is why equiping soul tether felt so good for survivability.

Hybrid eHP pool with corrupted soul = incoming damage is split equally between HP and ES. As a result everytime you take a hit ES leech, life regen, life flask (and potentially life leech if you can get it from gear or corrupted nodes) will start regening against damage immediately with full effect. And that is WAY stronger than ES leech alone. As a side note if you can get some % lightning damage leeched as life it might be worth speccing into Zealoth Oath to boost ES sustain with the converted life regen but one needs to test how that feels in action.

3rd option seems to be the strongest. And I think that glorious vanity is a huge defensive boost and solves sustain problems. It's somewhat annoying to implement into the build with all the randomness going on with the passives but still... And either way it is paramount to stack serious amounts of chaos resist otherwise you will die anyways since chaos damage bypasses ES.

In comparison based on my character:
-without glorious vanity: max 186 ES leech in the upper third and then 184 max ES leech + 648 life regen + 624 from flask = 1458 when on dangerously low eHP. ~6500 combined life pool
-with glorious vanity: 324 max ES leech + 648 life regen + 624 from flask = 1596 - which active all the time. ~8000 combined life pool

If you can get glorious vanity then the new setup is great, more survivability and more damage, smoother movement. If you can't get the jewel maybe try zealoth oath + life flask combo or stick to life leech from the ascendency + soul tether.

Thanks, this helps a lot but im still confused.

So i didn’t change my jewel when i tried the new build, which might explain why i was so squishy. What im missing is where all the regen comes from even if i get that new jewel.

Im a bit burned from trying to completely respec last time, so if i do keep soul tether and the leech from ascendency, are the other changes still worth making?

Specifically, should i still swap my skill gems? Or are these dependent in other changes?

Edit: also i notice a lot of skill gems in common between arc and brand. Could i just drop a support gem from arc and put brand in there?

Id lose some dps but surely hving an entire 6l free for WoC plus curses etc would make up for that?

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smplx wrote:

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WelshyC wrote:

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smplx wrote:

I think it's worth mentioning for those who are swapping to the new setup that it really requires corrupted soul granted by the glorious vanity jewel to work. Otherwise the sustain will suffer. It takes over the functionality of soul tether but in a different way - soul tether is rendered useless if we have zero life leech. Glorious vanity with Doryani now costs 80 chaos so just keep that in mind. More details if you expand spoiler below.

Spoiler

Hybrid eHP pool without anything = your ES leech will try hard to regen against all incoming damage but will fail miserably. It is just too week. Your upper 1/3 of your health pool will replenisg like a slug. Only other option here without gear upgrade is to convert the life regen gained from passives and stone golem to ES regen through Zealoth Oath and use life flask to replenish life when life pool is hit. Otherwise your life regen will only be active when you have 0 ES which is - in most cases - too little too late considering we have 4-5K life which is an easy 1 tap for this content.

Hybrid eHP pool with soul tether + life leech = your life leech and and ES leech will be active all the time when hit, sustaining the full capacity of your eHP pool with full effectiveness, which is considerably stronger. That is why equiping soul tether felt so good for survivability.

Hybrid eHP pool with corrupted soul = incoming damage is split equally between HP and ES. As a result everytime you take a hit ES leech, life regen, life flask (and potentially life leech if you can get it from gear or corrupted nodes) will start regening against damage immediately with full effect. And that is WAY stronger than ES leech alone. As a side note if you can get some % lightning damage leeched as life it might be worth speccing into Zealoth Oath to boost ES sustain with the converted life regen but one needs to test how that feels in action.

3rd option seems to be the strongest. And I think that glorious vanity is a huge defensive boost and solves sustain problems. It's somewhat annoying to implement into the build with all the randomness going on with the passives but still... And either way it is paramount to stack serious amounts of chaos resist otherwise you will die anyways since chaos damage bypasses ES.

In comparison based on my character:
-without glorious vanity: max 186 ES leech in the upper third and then 184 max ES leech + 648 life regen + 624 from flask = 1458 when on dangerously low eHP. ~6500 combined life pool
-with glorious vanity: 324 max ES leech + 648 life regen + 624 from flask = 1596 - which active all the time. ~8000 combined life pool

If you can get glorious vanity then the new setup is great, more survivability and more damage, smoother movement. If you can't get the jewel maybe try zealoth oath + life flask combo or stick to life leech from the ascendency + soul tether.

Thanks, this helps a lot but im still confused.

So i didn’t change my jewel when i tried the new build, which might explain why i was so squishy. What im missing is where all the regen comes from even if i get that new jewel.

Im a bit burned from trying to completely respec last time, so if i do keep soul tether and the leech from ascendency, are the other changes still worth making?

Specifically, should i still swap my skill gems? Or are these dependent in other changes?

Edit: also i notice a lot of skill gems in common between arc and brand. Could i just drop a support gem from arc and put brand in there?

Id lose some dps but surely hving an entire 6l free for WoC plus curses etc would make up for that?

I would advise not to spec out of the life leech ascendency node and soul tether unless you can make up for the loat sustain in some other way - timeless jewel, leech on gear, zealoth oath, etc... This means that you can't use herald of thunder yet. But I think the other changes are good. 6L golem setup had to go as well as the 4link for mobility, these just used up too many sockets. IMO you can do two things, either put flame dash in place of Herald of thunder (in the new setup) and keep the WoC where it was before with steelskin and inc duration. Or the other way around woc with the auras fd with the utility. And you can set up a 5-6 link stormbrand. Stormbrand is cool mainly because it deals steady damage even when you dashing around desperately trying to evade the 1 gazillion dps goin on on the screen during a metamorph fight.

Dropping a support gem from arc: not a good idea in my opinion. I do not recommend.

WoC + curse: why do you ask. Can you apply two curses, if yes it might be worth considering, otherwise curse on hit assassins mark is the way to go I think.

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Dspayre wrote:

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BigJobless wrote:

Do you believe this staff has a feature without +3 light? How important is the + level?

2 suffix and 1 prefix is still empty

Craft +2 support gems at the bench and socket a Level 4 Empower gives you a level 26 Arc with 9 chains.

You'd probably want to have at least one, preferably more, good natural suffixes though. But, it would be okay until you find a base with more good properties.

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BigJobless wrote:

If the second suffix was also useful t1-t2 ( instead of strength) I would multicraft it +2 support and some other damage without thinking but know it makes me wonder is it going to worth it or not in terms of damage increase( may not increase at all)

I will lose 1 gem with empower for +3 level too