Torment and Bloodlines Challenges

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Lordemore wrote:

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Serleth wrote:

Lol inb4 100ex to buy unid uniques for challenge.

By and large most of the time I fine with the variants of the unique item challenge but this one just screams arbitrage.

You can buy an unid Windripper, say, for 15 exalted, and then after identifying it you can sell it for, let's say 13 exalted.

It is much easier than before. Because you can refund your exalts afterwards, and continue to buy the rest of items you need for the challenge.

The problem may be that many guys will identify the item first and thus destroy the opportunity for those who truly aim for 8/8 .

But it may not be such a problem in Torment league, if there will be alot of treasures (uniques) available.

Yeah, the first line was just me having a laugh to emphasize the latter point of arbitrage. It's just another avenue for flippers to take advantage of.

I did think about it later though and had much the same discussion with a friend of mine. The advantage/disadvantage of the old collect and thou must keepeth variation of this challenge is that you could resell the items at merge and roughly break even once the items got to standard, maybe suffer a bit of a loss. The disadvantages being a) the obvious one that it took up stash space, and b) that it's a money sink for 3 months until merge so you actually could get your money back.

This new method comparatively speaking has only the minor advantage of not wasting stash space. Otherwise it's a money sink at a much more significant (and immediate) loss AND you're far less likely to be able to purchase the rare drops unid compared to being able to acquire them identified before.

All told, it's a terrible decision, imho, to conduct the unique item challenge in this way given a) the impact on the economy and b) GGG's previous attempt in Ramage/Beyond to make 8/8 more accessible, if still difficult. As you've pointed out, many are likely to still ID before selling. Unless the improbable occurs where a significant portion of the player base chooses to sell unID and thus reduces the markup value of selling as unID.

Good to hear about challenges earlier that last leagues :) :) :)

Soo... my thoughts about those:
1) Reach Lvl 85 with 3 chars - nice one, looks better that 7x65 --> always wanted to get few chars to higher lvls, not the main grinding char = +1
2) Uniqs - not for casual(or even more that) like me = 0
3) Kill Packs from Bloodlines - as in Beyound, there will be some hard ones, COULD be done 50/50 = 0 or +1
4) Tormented Spirits - likely when doing 3x85 this will be done = +1
5) Full Clear Maps - have never done myself Atziri yet, and Vaal Temple map.... seams like = 0
6) Vendor Recipes = will be done :) +1 AND Vaal Orb recipe, cool :D
7) Encouters - nice ones!!!! likely to be done(shrines willl be pain in a..s, but had got all this league) = +1 P.S. Strongbox of Kalandra? what's this contains?
8) Master Missions - again, doing 3x85 could be done = +1

So = 4/5(or if lucky 6) :D Nice :)

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Serleth wrote:

... people deliberately don't go past normal?

Odd. But okay.

Well, as I said, I am "casual". Let's just say that either I'm not very good and/or don't have the time.

Believe it or not, I simply can't go to maps in 3 months. As a consequence, if a challenge requires late merciless content, it's out of reach for me.

However, that's ok: I have plenty of stuff to do on standard :)

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Pesegato wrote:

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Serleth wrote:

... people deliberately don't go past normal?

Odd. But okay.

Well, as I said, I am "casual". Let's just say that either I'm not very good and/or don't have the time.

Believe it or not, I simply can't go to maps in 3 months. As a consequence, if a challenge requires late merciless content, it's out of reach for me.

However, that's ok: I have plenty of stuff to do on standard :)

Ah, I misconstrued, my apologies. I thought it was a deliberate choice to not move past normal difficulty, as opposed to being obstructed by mitigating factors.

If you want to discuss the new 25 uniques list:
http://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/2o17vp/patchdiscussion_patch_130_unique_list_discussion/

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BestiyaLV wrote:

7) Encouters - nice ones!!!! likely to be done(shrines willl be pain in a..s, but had got all this league) = +1 P.S. Strongbox of Kalandra? what's this contains?

The Kalandra strongbox mod is the one that says "contains mirrored items"

nice challenges :D only uniques may be hard to do and leveling :D i aiming like last time 6/8 ;D
wait identyfity uniques so that mean i have to drop or buy unidentyfity and do it by myself to complate :D?
hmm :D
25/25?
1.Agnerod East
2.Agnerod North
3.Bated Breath
4.Belt of the Deceiver
5.Bloodboil 6.Doomsower
7.Great old one's ward
8.Kikazaru
9. Lead Sprinkler
10.Malachai's artifice
11.Maligaro's Lens
12. Maligaro's nightfall
13. Ngakuramakoi signet
14.Ngamakanui signet
15.Ngavalamakoa Signet
16.Nomic's Storm
17.Prismweave
18.Reverberation Rod
19. scold's bridle
20.Sentari's answer
21.Sibyl's lament
22.the blood thorn
23.the broken thorn
24.the rat cage
25.timeclasp

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SW_Bonobo wrote:

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Entropher wrote:

Vaal orb recipe hype!

7 Vaal Gems + 1 Fragment = 1 Vaal Orb nothing new...

No one is using that recipe since fragment was always worth more on the market than vaal orb. Now prismatic ring is other thing.

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Entropher wrote:

No one is using that recipe since fragment was always worth more on the market than vaal orb.

Except the corrupted map bosses being able to drop fragments changed that, especially for when you corrupt twinned maps that already had multiple bosses to begin with (Museum, Bazaar, Courtyard, etc).

Six bosses all with a chance to drop corrupted fragments. Potentially 6 frags for one vaal orb.

Bloodboil!

What about crossbows and sickles?