[2.1 Ghazzy - Summoner Guides] High Budget Builds

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Ghazzy wrote:

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RammboNr5 wrote:

CwDT should not trigger Vaal skellis since Vaal gems can not be triggered anymore. So the setup should be fine, although you "waste" a link

Very true, however in this build we do not need CoDT with inc duration seeing as we get 90% from the tree. Making it wasted if we don't use any other spell there, such as Vaal Skellies.

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RammboNr5 wrote:

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Ghazzy wrote:

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RammboNr5 wrote:

CwDT should not trigger Vaal skellis since Vaal gems can not be triggered anymore. So the setup should be fine, although you "waste" a link

Very true, however in this build we do not need CoDT with inc duration seeing as we get 90% from the tree. Making it wasted if we don't use any other spell there, such as Vaal Skellies.

Sure, that's why I put the wasted into "". I use the fourth link of CwDT for a curse, but I don't have Vaal Haste yet so I am not short on sockets



guess it was not the best question for the stream so here again:

I currently use 1h/shield combo and have +1 fire gems on the wand. I don't plan on switching to a 2h staff in the near future. So is it better to have srs in the wand for the additional level or should I put it in the chest to get additional supports like melee phys dmg or multistrike?

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choosinganaccountnameishard wrote:

why use CoD when you just have 600 unreserved mana?

won't belly/lCoil/vRegalia be better?

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leary93 wrote:

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choosinganaccountnameishard wrote:

why use CoD when you just have 600 unreserved mana?

won't belly/lCoil/vRegalia be better?

The mana regen probably and the availlability of uniques. Lightning coil isnt that great since without PoL it will guaranteed kill you quicker rather than slower (lightning res will be really hard to cap, and you will get shocked pretty substantially from a lot more sources) and a plain regalia is never better (too little mitigation to offer). Belly is also mentioned as a solid choice, which it truly is, but compared to cloak its really just a matter of taste. Imo MoM is a pretty strong defense but not really a preferred playstyle for some since you really need to run a mana flask for that and keep an eye on the mana too.

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choosinganaccountnameishard wrote:

500 unreserved mana with 5k life is just like 5.5k life
wouldn't that on a CoD mean it's just like a vRegalia?(too little mitigation to offer) the argument of CoD for mitigation doesn't apply here since the boosted dmg capacity is just 500 eHP

if the CoD is used for %manaRegen; wouldn't it be better to just get your 150% mana regen off jewelry? you'll just be swapping a 1)chest with %manaRegen and no eleRes + rings with no %manaRegen and eleRes for 2)chest with no %manaRegen and has eleRes + rings with %manaRegen and some eleRes


CoD with ~500 unreserved mana is just two coral rings with str and %manaRegen on a life build, right?



im not trying to argue, i just want to understand this as I never tried an EB-MoM build :)



edit: added the smiley face

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leary93 wrote:

Vregalia doesnt offer mana regen combined with a Constantly Returning 500 life. Its 500 life versus anything that one shots. Anything that doesnt one-shot gives you time to regen and comes down to getting closer to the pure 40% mitigation. Vaal regalia also cant ever give close to 500 life since the ES gets converted to mana with EB.

If CoD is only for the mana regen, its not better to swap to mana regen rings. As an enthousiatic ring upgrader because i love upgrading rings (totally... Not...) I can tell you getting anything over 50% mana regen on proper life rings is really unrealistic. People either dont understand that people want to buy those or understand that everyone looks for it and puts it up for unrealistic prices (20 chaos +). In that case, Cloak and decent life + res rings are cheaper (with small mana regen, preferably) than Coral str life % mana regen rings and a regalia. Not even to consider wanting GG mana regen rings with cloak anyways, meaning that even with the best in slot rings (coral + str, mana regen and res) you want cloak over regalia.

Basic Idea is: Res is easy to cap, hence rings will be the same for both regalia setup and cloak setup, hence we compare them in a vacuum keeping in mind ghazzy's using EB, so basically:

Cloak offers regen + up to 40% mitigation vs 109 life + 50 str max counting up to about 500 pure life (which is only the minimum a cloak offers), coming to the conclusion cloak is strictly better than a regalia.

Comparing it to belly is another case. Belly offers both evasion and armor added to a huge life buff (up to 40%) AND AND AND......

Wait for it.....

Flask recovery rate. <<<<< most underestimated mod ever imo, since you can buff up an eternal flask with increased recovery speed and this mod to have it regen the full flask amount in 2, TWO, seconds.

Hence, I'd be recommending belly for the avid flask user :P (I love flasks)