Shadow - 2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version - Forum

any advice on what to improve next? my ultimate goal is to go CI for the lulz but it seems really hard to find gear on standard thats not like 50ex is the dagger worth multimodding? or even 1mod rare it ? i feel pretty good on the damage side but yeah chaos obv destroys me as seems to be the nature of the hybrid version but its managable also, advices where to go with the last few levels? https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBBUIHHg18DkgRLxFQEZYbJRzcIG4i9Cj6KgsqOCsKLJwspizhLagt0jLRNAo1uTdmPAU9X0GWRUdGcUcGSVFJsUuuTLNQMFJTV8ld8l9qX7BjQ2SdZlRsC20Zb55wUnBWdwd_xoKbgwmExYV7hX2HE4nTjDaMdo8aj_qQG5DWkyeVLpeVl_SYrZoTmjubtZykn9-hL6crrGaus7GQtAy4k7k-uZO-gL6KwGbDCcM6ykrK09Af0NDQ9dfP2HbZW9te29TfiukC6rrr7uv17DjvfO-I7-vw1fId8uH5Nw== cheers.	Posted by cookiereloaded#4534 on Jan 16, 2016, 3:30:49 PM Quote this Post
" cookiereloaded wrote: any advice on what to improve next? my ultimate goal is to go CI for the lulz but it seems really hard to find gear on standard thats not like 50ex is the dagger worth multimodding? or even 1mod rare it ? i feel pretty good on the damage side but yeah chaos obv destroys me as seems to be the nature of the hybrid version but its managable also, advices where to go with the last few levels? https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBBUIHHg18DkgRLxFQEZYbJRzcIG4i9Cj6KgsqOCsKLJwspizhLagt0jLRNAo1uTdmPAU9X0GWRUdGcUcGSVFJsUuuTLNQMFJTV8ld8l9qX7BjQ2SdZlRsC20Zb55wUnBWdwd_xoKbgwmExYV7hX2HE4nTjDaMdo8aj_qQG5DWkyeVLpeVl_SYrZoTmjubtZykn9-hL6crrGaus7GQtAy4k7k-uZO-gL6KwGbDCcM6ykrK09Af0NDQ9dfP2HbZW9te29TfiukC6rrr7uv17DjvfO-I7-vw1fId8uH5Nw== cheers. I wouldn't multi that dagger, Life gain on hit is a SUFFIX, items can have 3 SUFFIX and 3 PREFFIX: Crit chance > SUFFIX Life on hit > SUFFIX Multi mod > SUFFIX SPELL DAMAGE > PREF COLD TO SPELL > PREF FREE SLOT FOR A PREFFIX That's what u get from multi that, won't be able to add Attack speed (SUFFIX) Cheap Vagan dagger craft " alvuimil wrote: 3. Proper way to craft a "cheap" vagan dagger with a clean one (blue one with "Hits cant be evaded" as unique mod). Step one: CRAFT ACCURACY with Vagan (this is the mod u NEVER want in a Vagan dagger) Step two: Regal it, and pray for a PREFFIX, if u get a SUFFIX buy a new dagger and start over until u get a random prefix (list of preff/suff can be found here: http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?type=7 ) Step three: Remove vagan Accuracy craft with vagan lv 7 Step four: find anyone with Elreon 8 (me for example xD) and give him 2ex (multimod price) and a tip is always welcome. Step five: craft Attack speed / Melee Critical strike chance / Spell damage NOTE: if you land one of the STEP FOUR mods with the regal (craft Attack speed / Melee Critical strike chance / Spell damage) Craft COLD DAMAGE TO SPELLS (this will proc ur EE more often than COLD/FIRE damage to ATTACKS: Blade Vortex AoE is twice the Cyclone AoE and hits more often, even when moving between packs) OR: buy a Skean / Poignard with fire/cold damage added for 1ex or so and multicraft for 2ex: total cost of the dagger 3,5ex, with tips ;), this will save you time and probably currency. There's other method to make the dagger RARE with only Vagan mod, but its way too expensive (6-8ex, guide can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxyJwb3-jY) For the tree i'd do this: Hybrid NOTE: it has 6 more points because i cant allocate points in the "INTUITIVE LEAP" Jewel zone https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMBAZEFQgceDXwN0Q5IES8RUBGWGyUbyBzcIG4i9CcvKPopTyoLKjgrCiymLdIy0TQKNbk3ZjrYPAU9X0GWRUdGcUlRSbFLrkyzUDBSU1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRrt2wLbRluPW-ecFJwVncHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hxOJ04w2jHaPGo_6kBuQVZDWkyeVLpeVl_SYrZoTmjubtZyknjyf36EvpuunK66ztAy4k7mTvoC-isBmwwnDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2VvbXtvU34rjhOkC6rrr7uv17DjvfO-I7-vw1fGK8h35Nw== CI https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YHHg18DdEOSBEvEVARlhXXGyUbyBzcIG4i9CepKPoqCyo4Kwosvy3SMtE0CjW5Oyg8BT1fQZZCS0VHRnFJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRsC20Zbj1vnnBScFZwu3cHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hcWGrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36Evpyuus7QMuJO-gL6KwGbDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2Vvb1OOE6QLquuvu6_XsGOw473zviO_r8NXxivId-Tc=?accountName=alvuimil&characterName=Severne_IV Enjoy FatherFakener (Trickster Fakener CI) Severne_I (LowLife Fakener) Severne_II (Inquisitor Crit Life Storm Caller) MCLMXXXVIII (Champion Oro's Flicker)	Posted by alvuimil#5300 on Jan 16, 2016, 4:07:36 PM Banned Quote this Post
@alvuimil ah wow awesome thanx for the "Cheap Vagan dagger" craft guide.. this is good to know and something i wasnt aware or didnt think of to craft an unwanted to ensure it doesnt get rolled by the regal.. and then remove the craft after the regal.. very cool.. any tips on crafting a good Elreon -8 Diamond Ring? same kind of idea i take it? craft accuracy also before the regal??	Posted by Morphl1#0257 on Jan 16, 2016, 5:14:37 PM Quote this Post
A question... the life based version of this build is good? I´m thinking about make this character but i dont know wich version choose :P	Posted by Elric_de_Melnibone#3458 on Jan 16, 2016, 7:09:52 PM Quote this Post
how you survive in melee? low eva, armour and dodge? just hoping to leech faster then you take dmg and hope not to get 1 shot? gues this version of the builds aint hardcore viable, unless you got a deathwish?	Posted by Nisseonbeer#5663 on Jan 16, 2016, 7:43:02 PM Quote this Post
" Nisseonbeer wrote: how you survive in melee? low eva, armour and dodge? just hoping to leech faster then you take dmg and hope not to get 1 shot? gues this version of the builds aint hardcore viable, unless you got a deathwish? You stack ES. This is basically a leech build. High damage to leech all the ES back via Vaal Pact.	Posted by VallenChaosValiant#7654 on Jan 17, 2016, 2:56:25 AM Quote this Post
" VallenChaosValiant wrote: " Nisseonbeer wrote: how you survive in melee? low eva, armour and dodge? just hoping to leech faster then you take dmg and hope not to get 1 shot? gues this version of the builds aint hardcore viable, unless you got a deathwish? You stack ES. This is basically a leech build. High damage to leech all the ES back via Vaal Pact. yes, but he state that on hc he would make it as a life based build. i am using it on hc now and is currently lvl 46 with 1700 life. killing really fast but i start to feel that monsters hurt :D I know its not supposed to be optimal to lvl with, just wantedt to try :D	Posted by Nisseonbeer#5663 on Jan 17, 2016, 3:17:54 AM Quote this Post
" Nisseonbeer wrote: " VallenChaosValiant wrote: " Nisseonbeer wrote: how you survive in melee? low eva, armour and dodge? just hoping to leech faster then you take dmg and hope not to get 1 shot? gues this version of the builds aint hardcore viable, unless you got a deathwish? You stack ES. This is basically a leech build. High damage to leech all the ES back via Vaal Pact. yes, but he state that on hc he would make it as a life based build. i am using it on hc now and is currently lvl 46 with 1700 life. killing really fast but i start to feel that monsters hurt :D I know its not supposed to be optimal to lvl with, just wantedt to try :D Just take out some of the crit nodes in exchange for life. I haven't died yet during mapping at 74, i am doing 73-78 maps with 4k health and 1.2k es. Kill them before they ever hit you. However i will eventually go CI when i get the gear for it. Last edited by saucefar2#3011 on Jan 17, 2016, 3:43:26 AM	Posted by saucefar2#3011 on Jan 17, 2016, 3:42:35 AM Quote this Post
I want to get a better understanding conceptually of the build. I see the mention of 'Crit Cap' a bunch. Is that speaking to 95% crit chance with ATTACKS or my discharge or what does that mean? I should know some of this already, but does the build revolve on Cyclone to proc the blade vortex and discharge? Does spell crit help fuel the build or does that not really matter? Is it just an ancillary boost? Someone posted the following for jewels: " Crit chance for spells Crit chance for fire Crit chance for lightning Crit chance for cold Crit chance for elemental Crit multi for spells Crit multi for Fire Crit multi for lightning Crit multi for cold Crit multi for elemental Lightning damage Area damage Spell damage Spell damage while holding a shield Attack speed with daggers Attack speed while holding a shield Life % Es % Does discharge count as a fire/lightning/cold spell all at once regardless of what I'm discharging. Do those crit chance and multipliers just all stack up even if I'm just using power charges? I also don't see normal crit chance on here. If I want capped crit on blade vortex, wouldn't I need to avoid the elemental crit chances? [e] Is there any reason if I use Elreon Diamond rings not to aug them before regaling? Last edited by Boozler#7979 on Jan 17, 2016, 1:37:49 PM	Posted by Boozler#7979 on Jan 17, 2016, 1:20:30 PM Quote this Post
well, first of all discharge is a fire/light/cold skill depending on your charges - so possibly all or just one spell crit upps your dmg (alot) and gives you more charges aswell so to speak doubledipping your dmg cyclone is solely there to proc our discharge(and BV), blade vortex is there to keep our power charges at max (and possibly proc EE altough i dont really get why added dmg to spells would help dmg wise) as to crit cap i dont really know (or care for that matter) myself	Posted by cookiereloaded#4534 on Jan 17, 2016, 4:38:25 PM Quote this Post