2.3 Fakener (budget fake Mjölner) build - Trickster Version

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Boozler wrote:

Was hoping you could help me w/ some questions I posted in the thread:

1. Is this worth pursuing if I don’t think I will get a 6L Voll’s? Assuming a 5L Voll’s is much better than 6L of something else.

2. Can someone provide me a roughly prioritized list of 20% quality gems to get? Figure I may as well start out on the right track at level 1.

3. I have a blank Vagan dagger (Royal Skean), what’s the proper way to craft it? Is there a more budget variant if this isn’t the ideal weapon to spend a ton crafting on?

4. Seems like general consensus at this point is CI is better than Hybrid, are there any specific leveling suggestions for this beyond pick up CI after ~5k ES.

1. Yes, it worth pursuing, as you i always though id never get my 6L volls or even volls devotion, but eventually everything comes ^^. Still the build is amazing with 5L (atziri doable with 5L)

2. Must quality gems are:

Cyclone: increased area of effect
Blade vortex: Increased area oF effect
Discharge: Increased are of effect
Increased critical strike: increased critical strike chance (just in case u use it)

Faster attack: increased aspeed
Whirlwing Blades: increased aspeed
Fortify: increased fortify time

Blasphemy: increased radius of curse

3. Proper way to craft a "cheap" vagan dagger with a clean one (blue one with "Hits cant be evaded" as unique mod).

Step one: CRAFT ACCURACY with Vagan (this is the mod u NEVER want in a Vagan dagger)

Step two: Regal it, and pray for a PREFFIX, if u get a SUFFIX buy a new dagger and start over until u get a random prefix (list of preff/suff can be found here: http://poedb.tw/us/mod.php?type=7 )
Step three: Remove vagan Accuracy craft with vagan lv 7

Step four: find anyone with Elreon 8 (me for example xD) and give him 2ex (multimod price) and a tip is always welcome.

Step five: craft Attack speed / Melee Critical strike chance / Spell damage

NOTE: if you land one of the STEP FOUR mods with the regal (craft Attack speed / Melee Critical strike chance / Spell damage) Craft COLD DAMAGE TO SPELLS (this will proc ur EE more often than COLD/FIRE damage to ATTACKS: Blade Vortex AoE is twice the Cyclone AoE and hits more often, even when moving between packs)

OR: buy a Skean / Poignard with fire/cold damage added for 1ex or so and multicraft for 2ex: total cost of the dagger 3,5ex, with tips ;), this will save you time and probably currency.

There's other method to make the dagger RARE with only Vagan mod, but its way too expensive (6-8ex, guide can be found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSxyJwb3-jY)

4. Yea, CI Is the way, i woulnd't suggest to play Hybrid beceause chaos damage deaths will frustrate you while mapping. If you ever want to do UBER, theres plenty of builds for that. Atziri can be facerolled with 6k es.
Invest in good ES gears (340+ helm, 200+ boots, 400+ Shield), try to get ES on belt while filling ur resists/str

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alvuimil wrote:

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saucefar2 wrote:

As for the energy shield, assuming you have invested in faster recharge of your shield you still need to run out and recharge eventually, i just don't see the point with a build that requires you to be close up for crits.

With the life build you can use flask to manipulate all of your health but you will also be relying more on resists, i keep my clarity at level 1 as i won't be using blood magic obviously.

The real mana drainer is discharge when combined with life leech, increased critical strikes and cast on crit, it can be a real problem with the life build as you won't have enough mana to discharge as much as the hybrids, the rest will be reserved in mana.

I think it can be solved by investing in either reduced mana reserved jewels or nodes.

Wait what? I think u really don't know what u talking about (don't mean to be rude)
why would i invest in ES Faster recharge rate? In this build (Hybrid or CI) "GHOST REAVER" node is a must (Life leech applies to ES), my shield is insta filled when any of my discharges hit.

As i said over all the thread, USE WARLORD MARK with BLASPHEMY (35% mana reserved), it gives 2% LIFE LEECH and 2% MANA LEECH. This is a total UPGRADE for this build:

Can drop Life Leech from ur 5L and add increased critical strikes
Don't need to run Clarity or +mana on hit jewels
Generate ENDURANCE Charges, boost ur damage and sutain ur CWDT

You only need to use DISCIPLINE (35%) and WARLORD MARK_Blasphemy (35%) = 70% mana reserved. In my case that's 144/402 mana unreserved. This allows u to drop 1 Elreon ring and put a good ring to cap ress or whatever is needed. Can even run a lv 3-4 Clarity if u really need it (that you don't)
In case you still got mana problems u can carry one mana FLASK (instead the life one_CI Version)

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BALRIM wrote:

Hi, how do you get your life back. Just with flask? Or/and LGOH on Jewels? What are the most important stats for jewels?

ur life only with FLASK, ur Energy Shield with Life leech gem or Warlord mark

I might give it a try if life leech applies to shields, but i'm pretty sure the problem with chaos damage still persist.

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saucefar2 wrote:

I might give it a try if life leech applies to shields, but i'm pretty sure the problem with chaos damage still persist.

That's why i always recommend going CI.

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alvuimil wrote:

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saucefar2 wrote:

I might give it a try if life leech applies to shields, but i'm pretty sure the problem with chaos damage still persist.

That's why i always recommend going CI.

I will have to redo all my gear for that, also a build without all the life nodes.

I have 70 regrets, that should be enough to respec most of it at 58.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOygDlm49YEO-gIMJRnFvnrQMykqcpOq6ytNfsIcTNAoNfL6Km7U3ZlfJkyehL8M6hMUspij6bAt_xio4kNaYrbiTIvQRlsHFHNxtGQ5IkBvsGOvujxoRUJf0XfJwVo_6LL8y0TW5UlMqCysKmhPQ0Ov1FddFR6crl5U9X3BSES_b1EcGX2pkncMJhq7AZkyzidPy4dh28h25k1ZjPAUgbq6z0B-MNmNDuT6f3-98UDBBlu_rrGaaO9D1LOGCm-w4hXspT2ZUa7eePIV9jHZ3B-UZ217ZWxslS67pAqKj

I removed all the life nodes but some had energy shield so to compensate i took the ones next to CI.

I plan on taking rightous decree when i get to level 90 on the left next to the amplify an elementalist nodes.

then i can run without one mana cost ring atleast.


https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOygDlm49YEO-gIMJRnFvnrQMykqcpOq6ytNfsIcTNAoNfL6Km7U3ZlfJkyehL8M6hMUspij6bAt_xio4kNaYrbiTIvQRlsHFHNxtGQ5IkBvsGOvujxoRUJf0XfJwVo_6LL8y0TW5UlMqCysKmhPQ0Ov1FddFR6crl5U9X3BSES_b1EcGX2pkncMJhq7AZkyzidPy4dh28h25k1ZjPAUgbq6z0B-MNmNDuT6f3-98UDBBlu_rrGaaO9D1LOGCm-w4hXspT2ZUa7eePIV9jHZ3B-UZ217ZWxslS67pAqKjpus3g-0gtoaWdN-K

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saucefar2 wrote:

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alvuimil wrote:

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saucefar2 wrote:

I might give it a try if life leech applies to shields, but i'm pretty sure the problem with chaos damage still persist.

That's why i always recommend going CI.

I will have to redo all my gear for that, also a build without all the life nodes.

I have 70 regrets, that should be enough to respec most of it at 58.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOygDlm49YEO-gIMJRnFvnrQMykqcpOq6ytNfsIcTNAoNfL6Km7U3ZlfJkyehL8M6hMUspij6bAt_xio4kNaYrbiTIvQRlsHFHNxtGQ5IkBvsGOvujxoRUJf0XfJwVo_6LL8y0TW5UlMqCysKmhPQ0Ov1FddFR6crl5U9X3BSES_b1EcGX2pkncMJhq7AZkyzidPy4dh28h25k1ZjPAUgbq6z0B-MNmNDuT6f3-98UDBBlu_rrGaaO9D1LOGCm-w4hXspT2ZUa7eePIV9jHZ3B-UZ217ZWxslS67pAqKj

I removed all the life nodes but some had energy shield so to compensate i took the ones next to CI.

I plan on taking rightous decree when i get to level 90 on the left next to the amplify an elementalist nodes.

then i can run without one mana cost ring atleast.


https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAOygDlm49YEO-gIMJRnFvnrQMykqcpOq6ytNfsIcTNAoNfL6Km7U3ZlfJkyehL8M6hMUspij6bAt_xio4kNaYrbiTIvQRlsHFHNxtGQ5IkBvsGOvujxoRUJf0XfJwVo_6LL8y0TW5UlMqCysKmhPQ0Ov1FddFR6crl5U9X3BSES_b1EcGX2pkncMJhq7AZkyzidPy4dh28h25k1ZjPAUgbq6z0B-MNmNDuT6f3-98UDBBlu_rrGaaO9D1LOGCm-w4hXspT2ZUa7eePIV9jHZ3B-UZ217ZWxslS67pAqKjpus3g-0gtoaWdN-K

You've got some wasted points there. Follow this Tree, skip STR node if dont need.

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You've got some wasted points there. Follow this Tree, skip STR node if dont need.

CI Tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YHHg18DdEOSBEvEVARlhXXGyUbyBzcIG4i9CepKPoqCyo4Kwosvy3SMtE0CjW5Oyg8BT1fQZZCS0VHRnFJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRsC20Zbj1vnnBScFZwu3cHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hcWGrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36Evpyuus7QMuJO-gL6KwGbDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2Vvb1OOE6QLquuvu6_XsGOw473zviO_r8NXxivId-Tc=?accountName=alvuimil&characterName=Severne_IV

The idea was not to waste points on life/es nodes, the 5% is easily replaced by the ones in the middle with 6%.

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This goes in the jewel socket near it, making the nodes 8% 8% 8% 16%, +10% from jewel itself

Makes sense to keep them then, ok i will respec my life build and find some new items for this build.

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saucefar2 wrote:

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You've got some wasted points there. Follow this Tree, skip STR node if dont need.

CI Tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YHHg18DdEOSBEvEVARlhXXGyUbyBzcIG4i9CepKPoqCyo4Kwosvy3SMtE0CjW5Oyg8BT1fQZZCS0VHRnFJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRsC20Zbj1vnnBScFZwu3cHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hcWGrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36Evpyuus7QMuJO-gL6KwGbDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2Vvb1OOE6QLquuvu6_XsGOw473zviO_r8NXxivId-Tc=?accountName=alvuimil&characterName=Severne_IV

The idea was not to waste points on life/es nodes, the 5% is easily replaced by the ones in the middle with 6%.

This goes in the jewel socket near it, making the nodes 8% 8% 8% 16%, +10% from jewel itself

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alvuimil wrote:

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saucefar2 wrote:

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You've got some wasted points there. Follow this Tree, skip STR node if dont need.

CI Tree

https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABA5YHHg18DdEOSBEvEVARlhXXGyUbyBzcIG4i9CepKPoqCyo4Kwosvy3SMtE0CjW5Oyg8BT1fQZZCS0VHRnFJUUmxS65Ms1AwUlNWY1fJXfJfal-wYENjQ2SdZlRsC20Zbj1vnnBScFZwu3cHf8aCm4MJhMWFe4V9hcWGrocTidOMNox2jxqP-pAbkFWTJ5Uul5WX9JitmhOaO5u1nKSf36Evpyuus7QMuJO-gL6KwGbDOspKytPP3dAf0NDQ9dfP2Vvb1OOE6QLquuvu6_XsGOw473zviO_r8NXxivId-Tc=?accountName=alvuimil&characterName=Severne_IV

The idea was not to waste points on life/es nodes, the 5% is easily replaced by the ones in the middle with 6%.

This goes in the jewel socket near it, making the nodes 8% 8% 8% 16%, +10% from jewel itself

Btw i am purchasing items for the CI build, the shield was really hard to find with 450-500 energy shield for a decent price, the lowest was around 10 ex but had no crit and some crappy stats.



I went ahead and bought this for 4 ex, the increased es is rather low but i thought the all res will make up for it if i can focus the es on boots or the belt instead.

the block is really low aswell.

For normal bandits is it worth taking the resist?

Also, I think dagger that has the phys/acc hybrid mod only counts as a single prefix so I might be better off crafting that than a dagger that rolled 7% ias when regaled.

Do you have any intermediate skill tree suggestions? Go here first, then here, then over there type of suggestions.

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Boozler wrote:

For normal bandits is it worth taking the resist?

Also, I think dagger that has the phys/acc hybrid mod only counts as a single prefix so I might be better off crafting that than a dagger that rolled 7% ias when regaled.

Do you have any intermediate skill tree suggestions? Go here first, then here, then over there type of suggestions.

As i told u ingame, i'd craft the asp one, because then u can add Cold damage to spell, the phys/acc one u cant, and skean already have a good aspeed.

And for the tree, i just followed Mathils one, lvling as Flame totem + firestorm