[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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kompaniet wrote:

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morfodauns wrote:

I think I've done a huge mistake. I watched you video about Avatar Scion - since I had a scion already and didn't want to level a new ranger character, decided to do that.

About 3000 chaos later my lvl90 scion (https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/morfodauns/, character name Morfodawnis) is now geared with this -

Yet my barrage tooltip is at mere 3.6k dps, and I get sub-600k dps in PoB against Shaper. I see, for example, the other Doomfletch guide that shows 5.42million dps vs Shaper. Yeah, my gear's probably not that good, but I would expect at least 2 million dps or something? I can get 600k dps on some budget build.

What am I doing wrong? Because I must be doing something very wrong.

tick every unrealistic box in configuration in pob

It's more about his mirror-jewellery than that.

Since I played this build myself (with Pathfinder, however, did something similar to Ahfack's guide but not exactly) I'll share some thoughts.

2mill dps aren't easy though. Should be doable with 3k chaos in. I had around 2.2 (2.4 but dmg on full life is not always up, so I toned it down) with around the same investment.

What's your scion ascendacy? What are your goals? Mapping? Guardians/Shaper? I'll assume the latter until proven wrong.

- what's your Scion ascendacy? Elementalist is good QoL but soso for bossing.

- What's the deal with WO? are you tri-res-balanced with flasks?
(the idea is to balance cold-lighning-fire with flasks up to achieve clean 15% pen and some ele dmg reduction. With scion vinktar's is a soso choice for max dmg output (with pathfinder you can think about it), since you need a "grounding" flask. With ToH and dying sun only you're undercapping fire+lightning to have balanced resists with flasks up. Not sure if that's the case with a scion and if the dmg is worth the QoL loss. But this dmg plays an essential part in the guide.

Otherwise just take a different flask for WO (ToH)

- What about the helmet?. Tempest's is all about mapping QoL. +2 Barrage is also..terribly expensive (because of the wanders). You can use +2 barrage enchant on something overenchanted like devotos. The helmet is very underrated for mapping, but you'll still lose some QoL. +2 Barrage is huge though

- jewellery has some potential ---EDIT Ovetlooked the accuracy on ammu. Jewellery is more than fine, nvm. Its more about the missing enchants (helmet, boots) and the gems (gmp for barrage is not the best)

So No one else is having difficulty with this build an low intel/strength/ That's supposed to happen?

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Hypochondriacs wrote:

So No one else is having difficulty with this build an low intel/strength/ That's supposed to happen?

Take str/int nodes from the tree first.
Respec those later after you got the attributes on your gear

I've completed the recommended skill tree, except for the sockets as I don't have good jewels yet.

I've been adding life leech nodes in the meantime, which I will respec later. Is there anything else I should be adding?

Hi! I have tried this build more times then I can count and just cant seem to get things right! Would someone mind taking a look at my character and telling me what they think? Where am i going wrong? Thanks for any help you can give! Character is TornadoPrism on Harbringer.

I'm still new,and a friend told me that this doesn't make sense :why run PhysToLight if Signal Fire and Lighting arrow already does 50% each?
I told him I followed the guide xD

So, after some really long time trying, I accidentally got a 6link on my full ele TS build.

The 5 links I was running were - TS + weapon ele dmg - phys to light - GMP - phys projectile dmg.

What do you think is the best 6th link assuming that:
1) I have no other skill for single target
2) I have barrage as other skill so I keep TS for map clear

And also, were I to use 6link Barrage for ST (as the dps against some bosses sucks), what gems do I use there? What do you think about Point Blank gem in that setup?

My guess would be that I play barrage at almost melee range and go:
Barrage - phys to light - weapon ele dmg - phys projectile - slower projectiles - faster attacks/pointblank

Last but not least, how good is Maim compared to other gems? To me it seems a tad bit inconvenient given that it's red gem and you cannot easily swap it with others.

Thanks for hints!

Best 4L for LA Raider?

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rAx wrote:

Hi. I'm leveling the LA scion and I'm level 39. I just swapped in GMP and Chain on a Tabula. I have the Mana Leech node for 0.4% but it doesn't appear to be doing much at all. Two LA shots into a full pack and I'm out of mana, even with 2 Elreon rings. Any ideas how I can fix this? Thanks!

Edit: Taking Chain out feels a little better at this level but this build levels sooooo slowly, even with a 6L and leveling uniques. Leech doesn't feel like it's doing anything compared to other builds I've leveled and the damage doesn't seem to be there, despite going for crit/damage nodes early. I see the Spirit Void mention in the leveling section but the skill trees don't show the Spirit Void cluster being taken, only the one 0.4% mana leech node. Any other ideas?

Bump.

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rAx wrote:

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rAx wrote:

Hi. I'm leveling the LA scion and I'm level 39. I just swapped in GMP and Chain on a Tabula. I have the Mana Leech node for 0.4% but it doesn't appear to be doing much at all. Two LA shots into a full pack and I'm out of mana, even with 2 Elreon rings. Any ideas how I can fix this? Thanks!

Edit: Taking Chain out feels a little better at this level but this build levels sooooo slowly, even with a 6L and leveling uniques. Leech doesn't feel like it's doing anything compared to other builds I've leveled and the damage doesn't seem to be there, despite going for crit/damage nodes early. I see the Spirit Void mention in the leveling section but the skill trees don't show the Spirit Void cluster being taken, only the one 0.4% mana leech node. Any other ideas?

Bump.

I give you the benefit of doubt because you are leveling a scion. Not an easy task with the 3.0 lvling..

a) mana leech while leveling

1) thief's torment
2) mana gain on hit jewels
3) mana gain on gear for 1c max
4) elreon rings you are using
5) alira as bandit choice (not advisable unless you are opting for her anyway). But if you are rich and hate leveling..
6) reduce mana reservation to 50%
7) mana flask
8) temporary nodes like spirit void, or others. There is no point in exactly replicating the endgame tree 1:1. Rangers should always pick proj dmg at the start etc. I know that you need more respecs but there are plenty of useful mana nodes tbh.
9) clarity (don't think its necessary)
10) CoH-AM

I hope I helped you but thats about the last time I write on this topic. The same question will surely be asked again 1-2 pages anyway.

b) Leveling in general

This build isn't THAT bad to level with twinked gear as a ranger. However, it's a) a lot worse compared to 2.6 because of perma bossfight mode from act 5-6 on and the ridicolous dmgspikes b) I feel like the whole leveling process is balanced around T1 builds. I can't understand why I had less dmg with twinked 400c+leveling gear (+1blackgleam into +1 drillneck, doomfletch's prism, tabula,..) with twinked tree and appropriate supports compared to leveling SSF sunder from scratch. It was ok though.

You are playing a scion too, which doesn't help your cause. Don't panic, ask a friend for a couple of bosskills and farm A9 aqueduct..

Thanks for bringing up this topic since I'm wondering why so many people are complaining about the endgame in tthis thread and so few about leveling. With the latter being quite a bit more complicated and tedious imo.