Auras are WAY overpowered: Remove reservation, cap them like totems and save blood magic!

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mark1030 wrote:

Raics, the tree's changed so many times I don't remember what it was like before 1.0. Why did you only use aura reservation nodes in your second item but not the one you are comparing it to? Were there no aura reservation nodes in the tree pre-1.0?

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Startkabels wrote:

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Now, auras still do too much

Based on what? This is a pretty empty statement to me, what makes you say this? (please don't come up with a shav/alpha/aura nodes end game aura stacker)

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But stop defending Auras in the current Metagame, because they suck.

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BUT THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. ITS BORING. IT LIMITS BUILD DIVERSITY. ITS A NO BRAINER "DESICION"

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Crackmonster wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

October 23, 2013. That's the day Auras became the way they are today. If they were so overpowered and broken, why did it take so long before people started whining about them? Surely something so broken would have caused immediate QQing. Could it be that the reason it took so long for the crying is that it's not the Auras themselves that are making one build OP?

I gave an alternate solution. make Spectral Throw's base crit chance Zero like Incinerate and if that's not enough of a nerf, give it an attack speed penalty like Culling Strike. You could even make the attack speed penalty apply only to 1 handed weapons. Would this not solve the problem without nerfing every other build that uses Auras but isn't OP?

It's more than that.

They changed auras, everyone were like "omg auras sucks now", some said "guys guys, they are more overpowered now".

Then it went ahead a loong while, all the while, all builds were updated to use max auras, stack auras, and eventually it became common knowledge that auras were the way to go for attackers at all times.

Then there was a long period where no one talked very much about them, and inside of people grew a feeling of discontent towards them, but still no one had spoken out against them very much.

... until the silence was broken, and a lot of people went off about them having build up emotions for so long against them without them being expressed. The time was ripe.

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mark1030 wrote:

Ha! You mean to tell me that during a time before the "be nice" forum moderation began, people were holding their tongues when they had a chance to criticize GGG? Why do I find that so far fetched?

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Startkabels wrote:

where do 20 nodes come from?

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But stop defending Auras in the current Metagame, because they suck.

No thank you, please stop crying for an aura nerf because auras are fine. You're having a problem only with specific builds you think are OP...

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BUT THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. ITS BORING. IT LIMITS BUILD DIVERSITY. ITS A NO BRAINER "DESICION"

Totally invalid, do you consider end game viable only the most powerful build?

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Crackmonster wrote:

They didn't hold their tongue. First the masses had to understand that the aura change was not a nerf. Then some time went while they slowly became discontent. That's why when the silence is finally broken, they have build up emotions to express, not because they have on purpose held them back, but because it's first now the criticism has started due to aforementioned reasons.

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Autocthon wrote:

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Startkabels wrote:

where do 20 nodes come from?

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But stop defending Auras in the current Metagame, because they suck.

No thank you, please stop crying for an aura nerf because auras are fine. You're having a problem only with specific builds you think are OP...

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BUT THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION. ITS BORING. IT LIMITS BUILD DIVERSITY. ITS A NO BRAINER "DESICION"

Totally invalid, do you consider end game viable only the most powerful build?

Given that the only viable atziri build are essentially stacking auras...

The 20 nodes are the 20 nodes on average you'll spend to do aura things.