Cheap, Tanky, DPSy: Summon Raging Spirit [not updated for 1.3+]

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MatrixFactor wrote:
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jyc128 wrote:
I understand the part for the eldritch battery. i'm confuse with the part where you said you don't need to use discipline, vaal discipline and clarity with blood magic, but you have all those aura on your gear.
For end game do you discipline, vaal discipline and clarity with blood magic?


I am using end game build with disc, vaal disc and blood magic clarity. When you are leveling you will use eldritch battery => no disc, no vaal disc. Since you have no disc, you can use clarity on mana without having to use blood magic.


Now i understand thank you very much.
I took the liberty of compiling useful corrupted mods for an SRS summoner.


Corrupted mods for SRS:

Amulet:
+1% to all maximum Resistances
Minions deal (15 to 20)% increased Damage
Enemies can have 1 additional Curse
-it really depends what kind of SRS you are playing, but I would recommend minion damage.

Ring:
(4 to 6)% increased Cast Speed
-no other good mods available

Helmet:
Minions deal (15 to 20)% increased Damage
-no other good mods available

Staff:
(2 to 4)% Chance to Block Spells
-no other good mods available

Belt:
(5 to 8)% increased Skill Effect Duration
-no other good mods available

Chest: [you will most likely never see a high ES chest with these mods - and if you see one that fits your gems you won't be able to pay for it :)]
+1 to Level of Gems in this item
+1% to all maximum resistances
+(1 to 2) to Level of Vaal Gems in this item
-+1% all res is the best choice but also the most expensive

Gloves:
(4 to 6)% increased Cast Speed
+1 to Level of Gems in this item
+(1 to 2) to Level of Vaal Gems in this item
-I recommend cast speed since +2 Vaal gems can be found on boots and +1 all gems doesn't boos DPS as much as cast speed*. Cast speed can also be considered a defensive stat since castin faster means you can start runinng around faster.
*dual curse might differ

Imho you should only consider +1 all gems if you play the dual curse version, because you can slot Curse on Hit - Arc - Curse 1 - Curse 2.

Maybe there is a setup for single curse that outclasses cast speed, but I didn't find one. RM - Gen - Hatred - AA doesn't seem to do as much as 12% increased cast speed, although I like a level 21 AA. Even then I might just get cast speed on gloves and +1 all gems on the boots, neglecting +2 Vaal gems. Someone with more time to waste than me could do the math :)

Boots:
+(1 to 2) to Level of Vaal Gems in this item
+1 to Level of Gems in this item
(2 to 5)% increased Movement Speed
(2 to 4)% Chance to Dodge Attacks
-Get +2 Vaal gems, its cheap and grants a nice boost




Helmets and amulets can boost the SRS-damage but get rather expensive.
Atziri's Foible is an insanely nice amulet since the corrupted version is still cheap because it's rather common and people just vaal it. It lowers the required dex from 153 to 114,75 while at the same time boosting mana and mana regeneration.

In my opinion the Vaal gems shouldn't be put into the gloves but into the boots. Gloves and boots can both have +2 Vaal gems, but gloves can have 4-8% casting speed, which outclasses the other mods boots can have. Chests can have +2 Vaal gems aswell, but the +1% max res to all is far superior. But to be honest, buying a 700+ES chest with +1% all res, the right colours and the right links is very unlikely, same for the +2 Vaal gems version.

Last edited by Karkesh on Oct 18, 2014, 10:06:39 PM
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Karkesh wrote:
I took the liberty of compiling useful corrupted mods for an SRS summoner.


Corrupted mods for SRS:

Amulet:
+1% to all maximum Resistances
Minions deal (15 to 20)% increased Damage
Enemies can have 1 additional Curse
-it really depends what kind of SRS you are playing, but I would recommend minion damage.

Ring:
(4 to 6)% increased Cast Speed
-no other good mods available

Helmet:
Minions deal (15 to 20)% increased Damage
-no other good mods available

Staff:
(2 to 4)% Chance to Block Spells
-no other good mods available

Belt:
(5 to 8)% increased Skill Effect Duration
-no other good mods available

Chest: [you will most likely never see a high ES chest with these mods - and if you see one that fits your gems you won't be able to pay for it :)]
+1 to Level of Gems in this item
+1% to all maximum resistances
+(1 to 2) to Level of Vaal Gems in this item
-+1% all res is the best choice but also the most expensive

Gloves:
(4 to 6)% increased Cast Speed
+1 to Level of Gems in this item
+(1 to 2) to Level of Vaal Gems in this item
-I recommend cast speed since +2 Vaal gems can be found on boots and +1 all gems doesn't boos DPS as much as cast speed*. Cast speed can also be considered a defensive stat since castin faster means you can start runinng around faster.
*dual curse might differ

Imho you should only consider +1 all gems if you play the dual curse version, because you can slot Curse on Hit - Arc - Curse 1 - Curse 2.

Maybe there is a setup for single curse that outclasses cast speed, but I didn't find one. RM - Gen - Hatred - AA doesn't seem to do as much as 12% increased cast speed, although I like a level 21 AA. Even then I might just get cast speed on gloves and +1 all gems on the boots, neglecting +2 Vaal gems. Someone with more time to waste than me could do the math :)

Boots:
+(1 to 2) to Level of Vaal Gems in this item
+1 to Level of Gems in this item
(2 to 5)% increased Movement Speed
(2 to 4)% Chance to Dodge Attacks
-Get +2 Vaal gems, its cheap and grants a nice boost




Helmets and amulets can boost the SRS-damage but get rather expensive.
Atziri's Foible is an insanely nice amulet since the corrupted version is still cheap because it's rather common and people just vaal it. It lowers the required dex from 153 to 114,75 while at the same time boosting mana and mana regeneration.

In my opinion the Vaal gems shouldn't be put into the gloves but into the boots. Gloves and boots can both have +2 Vaal gems, but gloves can have 4-8% casting speed, which outclasses the other mods boots can have. Chests can have +2 Vaal gems aswell, but the +1% max res to all is far superior. But to be honest, buying a 700+ES chest with +1% all res, the right colours and the right links is very unlikely, same for the +2 Vaal gems version.



Thanks, but as you noted, most of our stuff won't be corrupt. I think what's good is to point out uniques that can be good with corruption. The two I think of are Goldwyrm with +1 gems, and Atziri's foible with +1 curse.

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Also I finally collected the courage and the lack of economical sense and went for a uber run. I wrote about it in the OP.
All my builds /view-thread/1430399

T14 'real' clearspeed challenge /1642265
what is charisma u mean?
After a insta rip at 84 to the pre nerfed tornado shot beyond mob archers, my second round of this build on beyond has been much more successful. Currently sitting at 92.5, could be higher but I haven't put in much time on this char over the last 3+ weeks. I finally six linked my staff today along with corrupting my multi strike gem to 21 to accompany my level 21 SRS.

Thanks for putting the guide together.

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Last edited by Menacetech on Oct 20, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
am i not going to be able to run disc/hatred/haste on mana without lvl 20 RM gems? I have the "non alpha" build where i go all the way down towards the ranger area for that reduction cluster. Currently, I still can't use all of my auras linked with RM unless i also equip my alpha on top of that.

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poppawheelie wrote:
am i not going to be able to run disc/hatred/haste on mana without lvl 20 RM gems? I have the "non alpha" build where i go all the way down towards the ranger area for that reduction cluster. Currently, I still can't use all of my auras linked with RM unless i also equip my alpha on top of that.



No you should be fine with L17-L18 reduced manas once you take 34% reduced reservation from tree. With a L21 RM linked to your Disc, Haste and L20 linked to Hatred (L21 & L20 end up giving the same result, check my DPS Tool which now has a mana regen/reservation section) you can get away with 30% reservation from tree.
All my builds /view-thread/1430399

T14 'real' clearspeed challenge /1642265
First of all thanks for the great build I am really enjoying it :)

So I have some questions and I'd really be happy about some answers xD

Firstly,which curses are the best for DPS?
I currently am using Flamability and Ele Weakness. But most of the time i go with Ele weakness and Enfeeble.

And is level 20 Melee physical damage better then a 20/20 Minion Damage? (6Linked with SRS/emp/echo/splash/multi - and not sure about lv20 MPD or 20/20MinionDMG).

My last question is do you think i can try Atziri with 3k life and 2,5k ES? or do you think i should try to get more ES first?

Thanks in advance :)
Last edited by KeY533 on Oct 20, 2014, 7:22:04 PM
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MatrixFactor wrote:
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poppawheelie wrote:
am i not going to be able to run disc/hatred/haste on mana without lvl 20 RM gems? I have the "non alpha" build where i go all the way down towards the ranger area for that reduction cluster. Currently, I still can't use all of my auras linked with RM unless i also equip my alpha on top of that.



No you should be fine with L17-L18 reduced manas once you take 34% reduced reservation from tree. With a L21 RM linked to your Disc, Haste and L20 linked to Hatred (L21 & L20 end up giving the same result, check my DPS Tool which now has a mana regen/reservation section) you can get away with 30% reservation from tree.


thanks for the response. do you have any suggestions on how to get the right colors on gear? Using all ES gear like we are makes the trek of getting a 3red chest/etc... seems absolutely impossible.... Are there certain base types we should aim for/avoid in order to try to get the right colors?

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Firstly,which curses are the best for DPS?
I currently am using Flamability and Ele Weakness. But most of the time i go with Ele weakness and Enfeeble.

And is level 20 Melee physical damage better then a 20/20 Minion Damage? (6Linked with SRS/emp/echo/splash/multi - and not sure about lv20 MPD or 20/20MinionDMG).

My last question is do you think i can try Atziri with 3k life and 2,5k ES? or do you think i should try to get more ES first?

Thanks in advance :)

Yes you can do Atziri with that life/es. Use EW/enfeeble to further boost your survivability, as flammability doesn't add that much DPS. 20 MPD is 50% more damage, whereas 20/20 MD is 93% increased damage that stacks with increased damage from multi strike, melee splash, and minion damage on tree, so MPD is better. Use my DPS tool to verify.

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poppawheelie wrote:

thanks for the response. do you have any suggestions on how to get the right colors on gear? Using all ES gear like we are makes the trek of getting a 3red chest/etc... seems absolutely impossible.... Are there certain base types we should aim for/avoid in order to try to get the right colors?



Use this calculator.
All my builds /view-thread/1430399

T14 'real' clearspeed challenge /1642265

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